Cornice Sweep in Stacked Wall Overextending

[lhanyok]

I have created a stacked wall to incorporate a masonry base into a brick wall. The brick wall includes 3 sweeps, including a parapet cap sweep. At one corner of the building, this wall joins another wall at a 6 degree angle. I have no problems with the other two sweeps, but the parapet is extending a little over 3" over the wall it should join. I'm fairly new to Revit - just started working on it last week after doing some tutorials, and this is our office's test project with the program - so any comments on how to resolve this corner would be appreciated.

[patricks]

That usually happens when you have a sweep profile whose origin point is somewhere in the middle of the wall or otherwise in a place such that when the walls joins with an adjacent wall, the sweep's origin point ends up past where the walls joined together. I know that's not real clear but you can just grab the endpoints of the sweep and drag them so that the endpoints of each sweep lie at the same point, and then the sweep should miter correctly.

And since you're new, let me tell you now that stacked walls suck. They will cause you much pain and headache such that you will ask yourself why or why did I not do this with regular walls (draw one wall type for the base, then draw the other one on top of the lower one yourself). At present there just isn't enough control in stacked walls unless the building is just extremely simple.

[lhanyok]

I should have been more clear in my original question - the sweeps are defined in the wall type, which is why I was confused as to why the parapet sweep was extending further than the other sweeps. The building isn't too complex, so would it be easier just to create a host sweep for the problematic sweep?

In response to the comments on stacked walls - I've read that in quite a few places, however, the model was already partially constructed by the time I started working on it (including the stacked walls.)

[patricks]

Yeah it can happen w/ sweeps in the wall type, depending on what offset the sweep has relative to the face of the wall, and where the sweep's origin point is located in the profile family. Just recently I had a project with an EIFS cornice sweep that was made by using a void profile to cut part of the wall and then another profile for the EIFS, and on any inside corner I had to adjust the EIFS cornice sweep to make it join and miter correctly, as one wall would invariable have the sweep extending too far such that it would not join with the sweep on the adjacent wall.

[tamas]

I have created a stacked wall to incorporate a masonry base into a brick wall. The brick wall includes 3 sweeps, including a parapet cap sweep. At one corner of the building, this wall joins another wall at a 6 degree angle. I have no problems with the other two sweeps, but the parapet is extending a little over 3" over the wall it should join. I'm fairly new to Revit - just started working on it last week after doing some tutorials, and this is our office's test project with the program - so any comments on how to resolve this corner would be appreciated.Could you post the problem corner here? (Just cut and paste the two walls with sweeps to a new file.)

I wonder if the sweep did not join because it had been inadvertently pulled away from the corner by some wall editing. Our ui is not perfect when it comes to adjusting sweep ends near wall ends. Especially in plan view. The blue sweep end control shows up near the wall's similar control, and you may have pulled the sweep instead of the wall at one time. Patricks advice is correct about pulling the sweep back to miter with the other.

Tamas

PS: About stacked walls in general, I think people may not know that right click on the stack wall has a "Break Up" command to turn it into a collection of regular walls. At least you can save time placing them that way if you find a tricky condition.

Unfortunately in many cases you may get into the same trouble condition with using regular walls that are stacked on top of each other.

[Scott D Davis]

PS: About stacked walls in general, I think people may not know that right click on the stack wall has a "Break Up" command to turn it into a collection of regular walls. At least you can save time placing them that way if you find a tricky condition.
Great to know! I had no idea...

[lhanyok]

Here is the corner where I am having some problems.

[tamas]

Here is the corner where I am having some problems.Thanks. The top sweep was indeed pulled manually. So my previous assumption seem to be valid.

Be careful when selecting the proper handle to make the wall longer for now.

Tamas

[lhanyok]

Thank you for your help