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Joef
2006-05-12, 08:29 PM
My elevations in hidden line generally look dead because the Revit trees look dead. How do you folks get trees to look decent? I need something I can place in front of a house or behind it . Detail components will only appear in the foreground. I would rather not re-invent the wheel so any tips would be appreciated.

Joe

Dimitri Harvalias
2006-05-12, 09:02 PM
Hi Joe,

Do R 9's new controls for images fit the bill? You can import a jpeg of your real tree into your elevation and make it foreground/background or layer it with other images

Edit: Not so good Joe. The issue is jpeg's come in with a background that can't be transparent so unless all your trees are rectangular this probably won't do the trick :Oops:

Dimitri Harvalias
2006-05-12, 09:34 PM
Joe,

I tried taking a Sketchup tree and exporting it to 3D dwg. Import into Revit and it displays OK (see image and notice it allows Revit objects to poke through the 3D face). I imagine this would work for any 3D face type of Autocad object

Joef
2006-05-12, 09:49 PM
Thanks Dimitri,

I tried taking a Sketchup tree directly into a mass and then into Revit but the mass barfed up the Sketchup file. Said I should simplify it. I'll try your tip.

Joe

DanielleAnderson
2006-05-12, 10:08 PM
Joef,
I'm not sure how fancy of a tree you are looking for but this is one idea...an idea from Jeffrey McGrew...

sbrown
2006-05-13, 02:22 PM
i use dwg blocks inserted in both elevation views of a plant family, set the visibility to be only on in each elev view and both on in 3d and it looks great. since they r dwgs they will scale automatically w the tree size.

Joef
2006-05-13, 03:24 PM
Thanks for all the tips. I've been playing around with autocad trees stuck into plant families and it seems to be the solution. Thanks all.

Joe

narlee
2006-05-13, 03:50 PM
That's good, Scott.

I tried gross-modelling something in a Plant Family, but, of course, you can't free the model lines from their reference planes, so you can't do an elevation and then copy-rotate.

Then tried doing that in a Project. The copy-rotate worked, but couldn't move or copy the darn things because model lines are stuck to their reference planes.

(I was hoping for a pure Revit solution - no luck).

So, I suppose you could use that ACAD Block setup, along with your own Grouped 2D Detail lines for PlanView embellishment if you wished.

Where'd you get the tree blocks, if you don't mind me asking?

Geof

fernando
2006-05-13, 06:34 PM
my usual tree , for that problem

sbrown
2006-05-14, 03:08 AM
Narlee, make sure you import the dwgs into a base plant family, then nest that into the final plant family, this will let it scale like the one I posted. as to where I got the blocks I have no idea, I did this in release 2.0 of revit, so I think it came with softdesk v8 or we just had them allready. Just do a search for .dwg blocks and you will find tons of them.

christo4robin
2006-05-14, 05:47 AM
Could someone clarify the "how to" of having a 2d tree representation scale with the plant? I was thinking I could just make a some "lollipop" 3D geometry and have it work obey the Plant Height parameter to make something basic work. But, it sounds like that may not work from this post.

narlee
2006-05-14, 05:53 PM
Thanks, Scott.