Moving walls

[Brian Myers]

I know, very basic question but I'm yet to find a solution I'm satisfied with.

The attached image is an "arrow" I've drawn. See the dimension? How do I make the model reflect the fact I want that dimension to be 25'-0"?

Now I'm aware how to change the dimensions of the individual walls. I also know I can pick both walls and "click and drag" that corner. In ADT (or AutoCAD if these were lines) I could simply do a window around the "point" and stretch it down an exact distance. My problem with using Revit (I'm positive I'm overlooking an easy solution) is that for this point I can't get it to give me a temporary dimension. It will for the walls themselves, but I don't care about their length. It will as I drag it down, but it won't allow me to enter input.

Oddly, I made it twice through a Revit Level 1 textbook and it never tells me the best solution. :roll: As of now I have a workaround to get it done, but I know I've just not been instructed on an easy input feature to deal with this in my book.

Extra :beer: for good answers and understanding of Revit 101! ;)

[chris.74844]

Have you tried using a reference plane? You might dimension to that and then lock the wall end to it.

[Brian Myers]

Have you tried using a reference plane? You might dimension to that and then lock the wall end to it.

Hmm... yes, that does work... I'd just be surprised if I actually found something AutoCAD would be better equipped to handle at this basic stage in the game (since Revit has been better in so many other ways)...

I appreciate the tip!

[Brian Myers]

Judging by the names I've been watching move in and out of this thread I have to imagine this isn't quite as dumb of a question as I first thought.... its the first time I feel good for not getting the answer I wanted to hear. :lol:

[Brian Myers]

Thanks everyone for at least looking!

Let me know if you have a better solution, for now I'll accept Reference Plane as being the best bet but I'm still open to other ideas.

Why I ran into this is that for my first Revit project I'm modeling a building we may be purchasing. Well the original plans are from 1956 and not well dimensioned. In order to model it correctly I needed that point to be at 20' after I originally "sketched" it in just for reference. Unfortunately, I found I couldn't easily tweak it...

[dhurtubise]

In the long run you will find that reference plane are way better then using plan AuoCAD. In a simple situation like what you got i have to agree that AutoCAD would have been faster but imagine having structural tied to a grid with a lot of dimensions and notes around. Making a stretch wouldnt be as easy but moving the ref plane would allow you to cooordinate everything in a flash.

[Andre Baros]

This does highlight Revit's strongly orthographic bias. It seams to lose some of it's efficiency when everything isn't parallel or square. At lease with traditional cad you could change your USC. Out of curiosity, what did support have to say?

[Steve_Stafford]

To lay this out you could have used the work plane visible option and moved/rotated the grid to make it easier to snap into the correct assumptions in the first place. Setting the grid to 5' bay spacing would make it easier to position the angled walls at exactly the right spot?

[Brian Myers]

To lay this out you could have used the work plane visible option and moved/rotated the grid to make it easier to snap into the correct assumptions in the first place. Setting the grid to 5' bay spacing would make it easier to position the angled walls at exactly the right spot?

*nods* Yes, that it would have! Once again, something not in my book!
I'll play with that feature tomorrow morning. :beer: :beer:

[Andre Baros]

Steve, that's a great feature which I've never taken advantage of, but it seams to circumscribe the problem of "hard to edit angled walls" by saying "draw it right the first time."

[Steve_Stafford]

Steve, that's a great feature which I've never taken advantage of, but it seams to circumscribe the problem of "hard to edit angled walls" by saying "draw it right the first time."Hindsight is 20/20 :smile: I'd still probably use the grid to help fix it...

[blads]

That is a great feature but as your drawing your angled wall, you could've calculated the length of the angled wall using simple trigonometry & then just inserted the correct length...

[Brian Myers]

That is a great feature but as your drawing your angled wall, you could've calculated the length of the angled wall using simple trigonometry & then just inserted the correct length... You mean... THINK!?!?!?! :shock:

LOL Yes, I could have done that as well and honestly gave that a thought for a minute... then I remembered my New Years Resolution in college in 1997 shortly after barely passing the last math class I ever took in college (an advanced Structures class) that I would never do formulas again unless I had no other option. I can't break that Resolution... :roll:

[Steve_Stafford]

...could've calculated the length of the angled wall using simple trigonometry & then just inserted the correct length...Easy for you to say...show off :wink: I'm grateful that the hardest math I have to deal with in Revit is plain english formulas for the most part. :smile: If it gets harder I just email Leonid...hmmm I wonder if that's why he won't reply anymore? :sad:

[Gadget Man]

To lay this out you could have used the work plane visible option...Wow! As they say: "The man learns whole his life and still dies stupid..." I use work plane visible option often, but I never thought of this... even after using similar functionality in many other programs...:Oops: