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funkman
2006-06-03, 10:57 PM
Gooday one and all on this Sunday morning! I have two questions:

1. I am trying to find out if anyone has a pattern as attached.

The first is for a wall model pattern that has (seemingly) random lengths with a constant height between.

The second is also a model pattern for a (seemingly) random lengths and heights.

2. I would like to view .pat files without having to import a pattern file to view in Revit. Is rather laborious. Does anyone know of a pattern file viewer? And one that works with x64 - the hatchkit from cadro.com does not work with x64 machines.

Thanks all!!

Melarch
2006-06-04, 11:35 AM
Do you have these patterns in an AutoCAD hatch pattern file or can you go to the Internet and search Revit City or Internet in general for AutoCAD hatch patterns to match your illustration.

Once you get an AutoCAD hatch pattern file copy and paste the code for the hatch pattern to the Revit hatch pattern file. Read the instruction at the beginning of the file in order to change the starting two lines of information to provide on the first line an asterick (*) the pattern name followed by a comma (,) the pattern description. On the second line start with a semi-colon (;) percentage symbol (%) the word TYPE (no spaces) an equal symbol (=) followed by the word MODEL.

Example - AutoCAD Hatch Pattern
*AR-BRSTD, Standard brick elevation stretcher bond
0, 0,0, 0,2.667
90, 0,0, 2.667,4, 2.667,-2.667

Example - Revit Hatch Pattern
*AR-BRSTD, Standard brick elevation stretcher bond
;%TYPE=MODEL
0, 0,0, 0,2.667
90, 0,0, 2.667,4, 2.667,-2.667

This is how you can include any pattern from an AutoCAD hatch pattern file

funkman
2006-06-05, 08:40 AM
Thanks so much Mel for that, that would have taken some time. Although, I don't use Autocad, and never have so I don't have any patterns from there. I have looked at Revitcity hoping I would find a hatch to use, but couldn't see any that were apt.

I downloaded a heap of hatch patterns, but it is quite difficult loading each one up and looking at each one individually in Revit, that is why I was hoping there was a viewer available for these things. Anyway, none of those patterns had one that was similar to the one I need, and I have no idea about how to make a pattern.

Elmo
2006-06-05, 10:59 AM
Hi there, bring in this family into a project. It will bring in a lot of hatch patterns but I do know that it has the ones you are looking for already done.

Martin P
2006-06-05, 11:44 AM
There are quite a lot of hatch pattern creation pieces of software you can get, but none I have found for free!! I think they are all pretty cheap though? Most will create the Autocad types, but as Mel has shown above its easy to convert them...

jcdecastro
2006-06-05, 08:17 PM
When I edit the Revit pattern file in (c programfiles revit9 data) it doesnt update in when I open a new drawing. Do I have to import the patterns one by one into a template then overwrite the template?

Martin P
2006-06-05, 08:32 PM
yes, you have to go hatchpattern>custom> then import - should work then.

funkman
2006-06-05, 10:34 PM
Hi there, bring in this family into a project. It will bring in a lot of hatch patterns but I do know that it has the ones you are looking for already done.wow, thanks Clinton!

Elmo
2006-06-06, 06:23 AM
wow, thanks Clinton!Pleasure Funkman!;)

Melarch
2006-06-06, 11:47 AM
Try StoneCAD on the internet, they have a bunch of stone related hatch patterns and here is an AutoCAD hatch pattern file I have used and added to for years when AutoCAD/ADT wa my primary CAD software and now use to import into Revit hatch patterns. But everyone who responded is correct that there are some inexpensive Hatch creation programs that will make life easy to create hatch patterns on the fly without owning or understanding AutoCAD's hatch pattern development.

Brian F.
2008-02-28, 02:49 AM
Hi there, bring in this family into a project. It will bring in a lot of hatch patterns but I do know that it has the ones you are looking for already done.

I've loaded this family into my project and can now use the drafting fill patterns that came with it. I would like to convert some to model fill patterns but I don't know how to get to the .pat file for this family. Can someone tell me how to extract the .pat file info so I can paste into and change my standard .pat file?

SCShell
2008-02-28, 02:40 PM
Hi there,

You first need to locate the .pat files (usually within RAC2008's program files, or where ever you saved the file that you downloaded.) Once located, right click the file and select "open with" and pick Note Pad. That will open the .pat files for editing.
You then can copy and paste, save-as or other things to set up you pattern files.

Good Luck
Steve

brethomp
2008-02-28, 03:47 PM
I have the same question as Brian. The Fill Pattern.rfa file posted above has some really nice patterns in it. Some of them would make nice Model patterns, but in this file they are Drafting patterns. Is there a way to export these patterns from the rfa file back to a pat file? Or could does someone have the pat file(s) that were used to create this rfa file that they could post.

Thanks

Brian F.
2008-02-28, 07:20 PM
Hi there,

You first need to locate the .pat files (usually within RAC2008's program files, or where ever you saved the file that you downloaded.) Once located, right click the file and select "open with" and pick Note Pad. That will open the .pat files for editing.
You then can copy and paste, save-as or other things to set up you pattern files.

Good Luck
Steve
Hi Steve,
Thanks, I have located the standard Revit .pat files and know how to edit them but I downloaded a family rfa file and not another .pat file. I would like to know how to get to the .pat file that came in with the family. If someone had the original .pat file for the family Elmo provided that would help too.

hugh.69031
2008-02-29, 04:38 AM
Export a Revit view of the pattern to DXF. The pattern may be assigned some new generated name but that doesn't matter.

Open the DXF file either:

with HatchKit http://www.cadro.com.au/hatchkit (http://www.cadro.com.au/hatchkit/HatLinks.html) then rename and save as a Revit Model Pattern at the desired scale.
with AutoCAD then run GETPAT.LSP http://www.turvill.com/t2/index.htm and save to a .PAT file, then edit with Notepad to add the ;%TYPE=MODEL line to the pattern, rescale with Excel (or as you load the pattern to Revit).Links to some extensive free and commercial hatch pattern collections here:

http://www.cadro.com.au/hatchkit/HatLinks.html


Hugh Adamson
www.cadro.com.au (http://www.cadro.com.au)

Elmo
2008-02-29, 08:55 AM
I have a number of those .pat files. There are quite and few with some really strange names. I can post those but I wouldn't be able to tell you which pattern goes with which. I created that family almost 3 years ago and it took me about a week to complete.

SCShell
2008-02-29, 01:23 PM
Hey there,

Here are a few .pat files for you to use.
(Someone here was nice enough to post a few years ago and I have been messing with them ever since.....thanks Scott!)

The stucco and GWB patterns are basically the old 'out of the box' drafting patterns, modified a bit and converted to model patterns so that they work now with RAC2008 after a few problems with the original drafting patterns (sand & sand dense) suddenly didn't work for me anymore. *This " solid black" material fill problem was covered in several threads over the past year after the release of RAC2008). These new stucco (Heavy) and GWB/Plaster (Light) model patterns work well for most of my needs and hopefully will work for you and anyone else who needs them.

Good Luck
Steve