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CHRISTINE.S
2006-06-07, 08:19 PM
Hello All,


Quick question,

Is there a way to view object above my cut plan in hidden line without changing my cut plane?

Thanks,

Christine

dpollard909366
2006-06-07, 08:59 PM
depends on the object.....

if its an editable family, one thing you can do is change the cut plane in the family editor.

also you can add symbolic lines to it if you wanted. for example, I built my soffits as a family instead of using ceilings and walls... I can place the soffit in plan, stretch it to where I want it, and it shows up in plan with either hidden lines or hatching, whichever I want.

The soffit is in actuallity above the cut plane, but I attach an invisible line to the floor level in the family. then in floor plans, the soffit is being cut (the invisible line) and it will become visible.

dpollard909366
2006-06-07, 09:01 PM
The cheap way out is to set the rcp as an underlay temporarily, then use the linework tool to select the objects above and place hidden lines. All that really does though is place drafting lines which may come back to hurt you later if things above change alot. (although you can lock the lines to the objects above.)

Justin Marchiel
2006-06-07, 11:16 PM
The cheap way out is to set the rcp as an underlay temporarily, then use the linework tool to select the objects above and place hidden lines. All that really does though is place drafting lines which may come back to hurt you later if things above change alot. (although you can lock the lines to the objects above.)
I have informed of this option while wanting to show the outline of my roof above. I have to say that it makes the most sense and is really quick and easy to do.

Justin

crispin.schurr
2006-06-08, 12:25 AM
We have tried multiple options, but what seems to work best consistently for us, is to overlay two views on the drawing sheet.

It is easy to do, with snapping to alignment. The underlay can then be tailored to show exactly what you want (with filters, overides, cut plane heights etc), without hidden line issues where edges are coincident.

C

dbaldacchino
2006-06-08, 12:45 AM
depends on the object.....

if its an editable family, one thing you can do is change the cut plane in the family editor.

also you can add symbolic lines to it if you wanted. for example, I built my soffits as a family instead of using ceilings and walls... I can place the soffit in plan, stretch it to where I want it, and it shows up in plan with either hidden lines or hatching, whichever I want.

The soffit is in actuallity above the cut plane, but I attach an invisible line to the floor level in the family. then in floor plans, the soffit is being cut (the invisible line) and it will become visible.
Interesting....what family type are you using? I'm about to start modelling ceilings (bulkheads/furr downs etc) and was wondering if I was going to have to draw linework in plan and lock it to these objects to show what's above in plan views.

Steve_Stafford
2006-06-08, 01:22 AM
...use the linework tool to select the objects above and place hidden lines. All that really does though is place drafting lines which may come back to hurt you later...Just to clarify, the Linework tool does NOT create drafting lines. It overrides the object's linework of the portion you select or the entire object. There are no new lines. If you move the object the linework will move with it. If you use it for something created in a sketch, like a roof or ceiling, it will maintain the linework even if you edit the sketch as long as you don't delete the segments affected. Naturally new segments won't be recognized until you use the linework tool on them.

dpollard909366
2006-06-08, 12:23 PM
thanks steve - that makes alot more sense -

DBald - here's the soffit family I've been using. I haven't made one to be l-shaped yet though, its just rectalinear.
It may not be the best way to do it, but it was a quick way for me to draw and manage a soffited 'ceiling' - any thoughts on how you others do soffits?

dpollard909366
2006-06-08, 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by dpollard
...use the linework tool to select the objects above and place hidden lines. All that really does though is place drafting lines which may come back to hurt you later...

I wasn't thinking clearly - if you use the underlay and change the linework, you have to leave the underlay on. The cheap way out I was thinking of was to temporarily use the underlay to lock 'hidden' drafting lines. They would be drafting lines that you would have to manage.

bowlingbrad
2006-06-08, 12:51 PM
You don't have to leave the underlay on.

Set your underlay, use the linework tool, turn off underlay, linework stays in view and change with the original objects.

dpollard909366
2006-06-08, 01:09 PM
I did it again. ok I'll stop making stuff up like I know what I'm talking about....

bowlingbrad
2006-06-08, 02:42 PM
I guess we won't be hearing from you for a while... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: