When I select Objects to delete, then Zoom it misses some

[Father-of-Ten]

When I select some text to delete, I zoom in to an area to better see where I am at and I hit my delete key, not all of the text is deleted. It seems that when I zoom in I do not select all the text to delete. This has also happened on Polylines and most everything else. It doesn't happen all the time, but most of the time it does.

Very irritating. I have attached a screen capture video so you can see what I am doing.

Thanks

[CADKitty]

Someone may have a more technical reason, but AutoCAD has always done this. If the program can't "see" on the screen what it's editing/deleting, then it won't do it. When I have to zoom into an area to select things better, I'll then zoom back out so that the command executes correctly.

[Railrose]

Someone may have a more technical reason, but AutoCAD has always done this. If the program can't "see" on the screen what it's editing/deleting, then it won't do it. When I have to zoom into an area to select things better, I'll then zoom back out so that the command executes correctly.
I've never seen that happen. I'll check to see if there's anything in the options box that might deal with that.

[Wanderer]

this is behaviour as designed. to prevent people from accidentally deleting things that they've unknowingly selected. there is no sys var to change the behaviour.
Someone may have a more technical reason, but AutoCAD has always done this. If the program can't "see" on the screen what it's editing/deleting, then it won't do it. When I have to zoom into an area to select things better, I'll then zoom back out so that the command executes correctly.

[Railrose]

this is behaviour as designed. to prevent people from accidentally deleting things that they've unknowingly selected. there is no sys var to change the behaviour.
But mine will delete anything that is selected. I just tried it. I've had images disappear because the frame was selected when I zoomed in & didn't notice until Raster Design asked if I wanted to detach the image.

[Wanderer]

well shut ma mouth... :Oops: i've discussed this so many times with people... I just tried it and everything of mine deleted too... disregard my previous statement, please. :mrgreen:
But mine will delete anything that is selected. I just tried it.

[Railrose]

well shut ma mouth... :Oops: i've discussed this so many times with people... I just tried it and everything of mine deleted too... disregard my previous statement, please. :mrgreen:
Makes me think there's a sysvar involved, but now we just have to find it. I couldn't find anything in the options that remotely looks like the culprit.

[pferreira]

this is behaviour as designed. to prevent people from accidentally deleting things that they've unknowingly selected. there is no sys var to change the behaviour.

Wow. Now everything is so clear! :-)

[.T.]

Hi Father-of-Ten,

I think THIS (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?siteID=123112&id=2864144&linkID=2475323)is what you are running into.

Apparently you can't zoom while creating a crossing window and have the entities outside of the view remain in the selection.

[Father-of-Ten]

Hi Father-of-Ten,

I think THIS (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?siteID=123112&id=2864144&linkID=2475323)is what you are running into.

Apparently you can't zoom while creating a crossing window and have the entities outside of the view remain in the selection.

Once again Thanks......

I guess I am just going to have to zoom back out to make it work.

Thanks a lot for everybody's help!!

Have a nice day

[Wanderer]

:idea: ah. thanks for the clarification on that. :)
Hi Father-of-Ten,

I think THIS (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?siteID=123112&id=2864144&linkID=2475323)is what you are running into.

Apparently you can't zoom while creating a crossing window and have the entities outside of the view remain in the selection.

[scott.wilcox]

I think if you pick the object, it stays in the selection set, but a window or crossing window removes ignores objects that are not visible when finished selecting objects.

[Railrose]

I think if you pick the object, it stays in the selection set, but a window or crossing window removes objects that are not visible when finished selecting objects.
I tried that, too & all selected objects were erased.

[scott.wilcox]

I tried that, too & all selected objects were erased.
If your window was completely visible when making the selection set, then all items are selected, but if your selection window is not entirely visible (i.e. you pan over while windowing), only visible entities are added to the selection set.

[Railrose]

If your window was completely visible when making the selection set, then all items are selected, but if your selection window is not entirely visible (i.e. you pan over while windowing), only visible entities are added to the selection set.
I selected lines, zoomed in, selected more lines, & all were erased.
I then, selected lines, zoomed in, started selecting more, zoomed in more, finished the selection, & all were erased.

[scott.wilcox]

I selected lines, zoomed in, selected more lines, & all were erased.
I then, selected lines, zoomed in, started selecting more, zoomed in more, finished the selection, & all were erased.
Try picking a corner as if you were selecting the lines, THEN pan over till you cannot see the lines anymore. Pick to finish the selection box. AutoCAD will ignore any entities that were not at all visible when you completed the pick.

[Railrose]

Try picking a corner as if you were selecting the lines, THEN pan over till you cannot see the lines anymore. Pick to finish the selection box. AutoCAD will ignore any entities that were not at all visible when you completed the pick.
That did it. I thought it was doing it in zoom, too. That is strange.

[scott.wilcox]

That did it. I thought it was doing it in zoom, too. That is strange.
I think that's what Melanie was trying to say all along, right, Wanderer? :)

[.T.]

I selected lines, zoomed in, selected more lines, & all were erased.
I then, selected lines, zoomed in, started selecting more, zoomed in more, finished the selection, & all were erased.
Hi Jane,

Try this:

Make 2 entities far enough apart to be able to zoom in on one and have the other out of view.

Execute erase, and pick the first point for the rectangle of the window/crossing selection window.

Before picking the second point for the selection window, zoom in on one of the entities enough that the other isn't visible on the screen.

Then click for the second point of the selection window.

Then hit enter. When you zoom back out, the entity that wasn't in the view will still be there.

It happens when you are in the middle of using a window/crossing window selection and zoom.

I hope this makes sense.

[Father-of-Ten]

That did it. I thought it was doing it in zoom, too. That is strange.

I don't think that I like this, but there is nothing that can be done about it. I have to revise 100's of DWG's and I need to move text, change it, and so on. I love to zoom in and pick my first point then zoom out and zoom into my next point. When I do that I only move what I see and then have to undo and redo it.

What is really funny about it, it doesn't do it all the time....

have a great day

[.T.]

Oops, I see you already have it...:)

[Railrose]

Hi Jane,

Try this:

Make 2 entities far enough apart to be able to zoom in on one and have the other out of view.

Execute erase, and pick the first point for the rectangle of the window/crossing selection window.

Before picking the second point for the selection window, zoom in on one of the entities enough that the other isn't visible on the screen.

Then click for the second point of the selection window.

Then hit enter. When you zoom back out, the entity that wasn't in the view will still be there.

It happens when you are in the middle of using a window/crossing window selection and zoom.

I hope this makes sense.
Pan is affected by this, but not zoom.

[Railrose]

I don't think that I like this, but there is nothing that can be done about it. I have to revise 100's of DWG's and I need to move text, change it, and so on. I love to zoom in and pick my first point then zoom out and zoom into my next point. When I do that I only move what I see and then have to undo and redo it.

What is really funny about it, it doesn't do it all the time....

have a great day
I can pick some stuff, then pan & zoom, & pick more stuff & it works like it should.

[scott.wilcox]

I don't think that I like this, but there is nothing that can be done about it. I have to revise 100's of DWG's and I need to move text, change it, and so on. I love to zoom in and pick my first point then zoom out and zoom into my next point. When I do that I only move what I see and then have to undo and redo it.

What is really funny about it, it doesn't do it all the time....

have a great day
This behaviour only applies to selection windows and crossing boxes that are completed and attempted to include objects that are not visible when the box was completed. Objects selected by picking, previous or that are visible when completing the selection box are added to the selection set.

[jaberwok]

Have you tried the SELECT command?
Just build up your selection set. Use P(revious) to add the earlier set.

[.T.]

Pan is affected by this, but not zoom.It may not be affected by dynamic zoom (I haven't tried), but I use a tablet with regular zoom programmed into it, and it is affected by it.

Edit: I also tried dynamic zoom and it produced the same behavior on my machine (not intermittently either).

What version are you running, Jane?

[.T.]

Have you tried the SELECT command?
Just build up your selection set. Use P(revious) to add the earlier set.
My, you've been at this a while too, haven't you. Nobody I talk to remembers SELECT.;)

[Opie]

My, you've been at this a while too, haven't you. Nobody I talk to remembers SELECT.;)
http://img9.exs.cx/img9/2705/assagi.gif
I do. :p

[jaberwok]

Have you tried the SELECT command?
Just build up your selection set. Use P(revious) to add the earlier set.


SELECT hasn't received much publicity in recent (and even not-so-recent) releases but it's still there. :-)

[SRBalliet]

How about using QSELECT, it might be quicker.

[Wanderer]

~shifty eyes~ PRECISELY! ;)
I think that's what Melanie was trying to say all along, right, Wanderer? :)

[jmb.alves738416]

Hi,
I know i'm late and out of time but I think your problem is the system variable "pickadd". Try 1 or 2...