Wipeout's in PDF Print All Black

[amiller.113952]

I am having problems with Printing pdf that i have made form a AutoCAD.
I use the "wipeout" command. when I make the pdf it looks fine.
But when it prints out the area with wipeout around them area black!

What do I do?

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[Opie]

Have you checked out the 'Similar Threads' section found at the bottom of this page?

This thread, "Wipeouts in PDF print as Black" may help.

[robert.1.hall72202]

I have found that older versions of adobe reader tend to show the
drawings appropriately. Anyone with 5.0 instead of the current release
can view and print the wipeouts correctly.

My office findings, maybe a myth?

[bhaugi]

I tried looking through the posts and related topics here and ultimately tested creating an EPS file and running through distiller to get PDF. That printed correctly. Same file printed directly to PDF plots with the wipeouts black. That tells me it's an Adobe bug.

Just one more thing to have do an extra step that shouldn't be needed, boy I have a lot of those every day.

Using Vanilla AutoCAD R2006, Adobe Standard 6.0

[rkmcswain]

I am having problems with Printing pdf that i have made form a AutoCAD.
I use the "wipeout" command. when I make the pdf it looks fine.
But when it prints out the area with wipeout around them area black!

What do I do?

What PDF driver are you using?
Can you use DWF instead?
You can print to DWF, then open that and print to PDF

[bhaugi]

What PDF driver are you using?
Can you use DWF instead?
You can print to DWF, then open that and print to PDF

I'm using the Adobe Acrobat Standard 6.0 printer driver here. DWF not an option in my case. The places I need to send PDF files require that format.

Interestingly, tried PDF995 driver and get the same result, black blobs. Leads me to believe that it's genuinly a PDF issue and by going through EPS then Distiller that the EPS output must be correctly handling the wipeout before it passes it to PDF.

Bruce

[Opie]

I'm using the Adobe Acrobat Standard 6.0 printer driver here. DWF not an option in my case. The places I need to send PDF files require that format.

Interestingly, tried PDF995 driver and get the same result, black blobs. Leads me to believe that it's genuinly a PDF issue and by going through EPS then Distiller that the EPS output must be correctly handling the wipeout before it passes it to PDF.

Bruce
I understand that about PDFs as a requirement over the DWF. I haven't been able to move our office toward the DWF format, yet. Still working on it though.

I believe what R.K. was stating is to use the DWF format to then print to PDF. Not everyone may have Distiller.

Thanks for pointing out EPS handles the Wipeouts.

[Chris.N]

alright. Dredging up an old topic cuz it's rearing it's ugly head in my face and making me want to punch the innocent monitor.....

I print to DWF just fine, it's when i print from DWF to PDF in either an Adobe PDF driver, or the CutePDF driver, it rotates the dang sheet within the paper (22x34, which is normally foreign to me), even tho the "preview" was correct! :banghead: oh, and i'm using the latest Design Review release AFAIK...

[margaretl]

I am having problems with Printing pdf that i have made form a AutoCAD.
I use the "wipeout" command. when I make the pdf it looks fine.
But when it prints out the area with wipeout around them area black!

What do I do?

We had this probelm when using Adobe Distiller. If you have the full version of Adobe, install the PDF Writer off the disc. You will have to go into custom install and select it from the list. I do not know why it isn't a default option. We are using Adobe 5.0.

[Chris.N]

We had this probelm when using Adobe Distiller. If you have the full version of Adobe, install the PDF Writer off the disc. You will have to go into custom install and select it from the list. I do not know why it isn't a default option. We are using Adobe 5.0.
would that be "Adobe PDF" in the printers list? if so, didn't work either. Adobe Acrobat Standard 6.0 for me, btw.

[margaretl]

No, it actually comes up "Acrobat PDFWriter" in the printer list. I am using it with Land Desktop 2004.

[CADDmanVA]

alright. Dredging up an old topic cuz it's rearing it's ugly head in my face and making me want to punch the innocent monitor.....

I print to DWF just fine, it's when i print from DWF to PDF in either an Adobe PDF driver, or the CutePDF driver, it rotates the dang sheet within the paper (22x34, which is normally foreign to me), even tho the "preview" was correct! :banghead: oh, and i'm using the latest Design Review release AFAIK...

Same for me, except that occurs in AutoCAD too. I've never been able to set up a PDF distiller which lays out the sheets right. I just know to rotate them in Acrobat Pro 90* CCW before I send them out.

[Chris.N]

No, it actually comes up "Acrobat PDFWriter" in the printer list. I am using it with Land Desktop 2004.
thanks. i'll talk to my IT and see if i can get that loaded onto my computer and see if that helps any. i'll report back results....

[Chris.N]

Same for me, except that occurs in AutoCAD too. I've never been able to set up a PDF distiller which lays out the sheets right. I just know to rotate them in Acrobat Pro 90* CCW before I send them out.
seriously, i've tried everything, not one combination of paper layouts or rotations or fit or match.... you get the picture... i couldn't get ANYTHING to work! :loopy:

[Chris.N]

No, it actually comes up "Acrobat PDFWriter" in the printer list. I am using it with Land Desktop 2004.
what version of Adobe? i go onto their website, and the last update for Acrobat PDF Writer is from 1996.

[margaretl]

what version of Adobe? i go onto their website, and the last update for Acrobat PDF Writer is from 1996.

I am using Adobe Acrobat 5.0. Do a custom install and select the PDFWriter.

I have not upgraded because others I have spoken with said there were large format paper size issues. Anyway, this works well.

This will take care of your rotation issue, too. Make sure your landscape/portrait settings in ACAD plot correspond with your landscape/portrait settings in Adobe. Also, hit the view PDF box when you set the PDF file name and you will always see the PDF you just created. This will save headaches later.

[Chris.N]

I am using Adobe Acrobat 5.0. Do a custom install and select the PDFWriter.

I have not upgraded because others I have spoken with said there were large format paper size issues. Anyway, this works well.

This will take care of your rotation issue, too. Make sure your landscape/portrait settings in ACAD plot correspond with your landscape/portrait settings in Adobe. Also, hit the view PDF box when you set the PDF file name and you will always see the PDF you just created. This will save headaches later.
i only have 6.0

was also just told to check out PDF995 website, they have a free program that supports large format. only bad thing is, it's free because it's "advertising" supported, and you have to buy a key to turn them off.

[margaretl]

i only have 6.0

was also just told to check out PDF995 website, they have a free program that supports large format. only bad thing is, it's free because it's "advertising" supported, and you have to buy a key to turn them off.


Have you tried looking into the custom install of 6.0 to see if there is a PDFWriter?

[bhaugi]

I don't think PDF995 resolves the black wipeout issue. However your printer is named may vary (PDFWriter, AdobePDF, whatever), where the difference is whether you plot directly to PDF or go through Distiller. To go through Distiller, you have t plot to Postscript, then run that through Distiller. Going this route vs. plotting to PDF directly seems to work for whatever reason. For the one checking on updates, if you are running Version 5, that is probably just the latest update for that version, Adobe is up to Version 8 now. I'm pretty sure this issue still exists, but haven't tested.

[Chris.N]

pdf995 does resolve the wipeout issue for me in that it let me print to PDF from my DWF (to match sheet size) no problem. new problem: it randomly rotates my sheets within new PDF. :banghead:

[gfreddog]

Chris have you tried using Cute PDF?

It's a freeware I've used and it handled wipeouts and all different plot sizes.

You can find it at: http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp

That's been my experience with it, so good luck if ya try it.

[Chris.N]

Chris have you tried using Cute PDF?

It's a freeware I've used and it handled wipeouts and all different plot sizes.

You can find it at: http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp

That's been my experience with it, so good luck if ya try it.
that's the little (insert expletive here) that works fine untill i want to use 34X22 sized paper from DWF.

[gfreddog]

that's the little (insert expletive here) that works fine untill i want to use 34X22 sized paper from DWF.


Oooppps so sorry I missed your other post where you said that... my bad... ;)

Then I'm at a loss, sorry no help from me... no cookie for me...

[Chris.N]

Oooppps so sorry I missed your other post where you said that... my bad... ;)

Then I'm at a loss, sorry no help from me... no cookie for me...
yeah, i'm gonna try the 30 day trials for Acroplot & Bluebeam and then see if i can get a copy of the one that works better...

[CADDmanVA]

yeah, i'm gonna try the 30 day trials for Acroplot & Bluebeam and then see if i can get a copy of the one that works better...

Definitely let us know how Acroplot works for you. I've been eying it for about a year now, but don't know if the cost would be worth it.

[rkmcswain]

Definitely worth it for us. We tried all the freebies and they all had one problem or another.

Acroplot has been great.

[cadtag]

DeskPDF is the one they settled on here. Seems to handle everything we absolutely need. not free, by cheaper that Acrobat.

Unlike Acroplot, the PDF files created contain searchable text (if you use TrueType -- shx fonts are still stoked)

[woak375]

I changed the color of the layer of the wipeout to 255 and the problem went away.
I use color by layer as a standard. If you use color by entity you might try assigning color 255 to the wipe out.

[robert.1.hall72202]

Just to throw in another lab rat, I have had times when I repbublish the DWF, reprint the
pdf, and the black shading magically disappears. Nothing with computers surprises me.

[dxarhoulakos]

I changed the color of the layer of the wipeout to 255 and the problem went away.
I use color by layer as a standard. If you use color by entity you might try assigning color 255 to the wipe out.

this works for me as well.

Put the wipeout on color 255 (or the layer the wipeout is on).

Just make sure the .ctb is set to print "object color".

This solution works for the "blackout wipeouts"

[dshelby]

I have this issue printing to our Oce TDS450 from Adobe reader 8.0. However, if I click the 'Advanced' button in Adobe's print dialogue, then select 'Print as image', the pdf prints correctly.

[bhaugi]

We just found another solution today as well. Be sure Adobe is set to print document, NOT document & markups.

[gtunison]

Were using AutoCAD 2009 and plotting to dwg to pdf.
Using Adobe 9.0 we don't get the solid black where we used a wipeout anymore, but we do get the wipeout outline.

I have turned the wipeout frame off, changed it's color to 255, plotted from Adobe using just document, plotted from Adobe using print as image.

We still get the outline. But hey...it's not solid black anymore.

[Glenn Pope]

Were using AutoCAD 2009 and plotting to dwg to pdf.
Using Adobe 9.0 we don't get the solid black where we used a wipeout anymore, but we do get the wipeout outline.

I have turned the wipeout frame off, changed it's color to 255, plotted from Adobe using just document, plotted from Adobe using print as image.

We still get the outline. But hey...it's not solid black anymore.

Are you on subscription? If so have you downloaded Bonus Pack 2 for AutoCAD? This gives you a better version of AutoCAD's built in PDF printer.

[pit.arizaj]

i had this problem too, Saved the pdf into Jpeg and prints OK

[gilead77]

I have this issue printing to our Oce TDS450 from Adobe reader 8.0. However, if I click the 'Advanced' button in Adobe's print dialogue, then select 'Print as image', the pdf prints correctly.


Just for your information: the "print as image" can generate a bad quality printing. However, the new release of Oce tds450 has a new setting within postcript settings "PDF wipe out optimization".
This functionnality allows avoiding to print the black area. The wipeout is so correctly printed.

Regards

Gilead

[catris11]

Have you tried using the DWG TO PDF.pc3 option? It lacks a little bit of quality, however, I don't have the issues with wipeout.

[cyoung]

When the AutoCAD WIPEOUT command is used and PDFs are created, solid black hatching may result. To plot the PDF without the solid hatching, use Adobe reader, click on the print command and click on the advanced button (bottom left) the toggle on “Print as image”.

[donquixote.vn]

I've met issue too.
After research on many CAD website. I have a way to resolve it. (I think it's better than change Advance in Acrobat printer). But you have to use it before export dwg file to pdf file.

I wrote a lsp file. It'll select all wipeouts in the drawing, change them to the layer (has name "wipeout") which color is 255. And then wipeouts never be black on paperprinted.

To textmask. In fact that is group with two element objects (a text and a wipeout behind the text). Before use my lisp, I have to change the Options/Selection modes (uncheck in "Object grouping"). Else the text will be changed to "wipeout" layer to (255 color) and disappread when print on paper. That is inconvenient, but I haven't find the solution.

That's my source lsp file:


;wipeout tools
;searches through drawing and change all wipeouts to WIPEOUT layer, which is 255 color
;will not delete nested wipeouts
;created by Hai Pham. Thanks for Alan Thompson's ideas
;6.29.10
(defun c:wipeC (/ wipe_list )
(command "-layer" "_new" "wipeout" "_color" "255" "wipeout" "")
(if (setq wipe_list (ssget "X" (list (cons 0 "wipeout"))))
(progn
(command "change" wipe_list "" "_properties" "_layer" "wipeout" "" "")
(princ (strcat "\n" (rtos (sslength wipe_list) 2 0) " wipeout object(s) have be changed to WIPEOUT layer"))
);progn
(princ "\n No wipeout objects found.")
);if
(princ))

[irneb]

For those who can't use the 255 fix (i.e. you're using STB's instead of CTB's) create a style with colour set to RGB 255,255,255 and/or screening=0%.

[dallas.leinweber]

When you are ready to print in Adobe Reader, open the "Print Dialog Box", click the "Advanced" button, then check the box labeled "Print as Image".

We have Adobe Reader 9, however, that option has been available for several versions back. In earlier versions it may be under a different tab and called something like "Print Image as Graghics"...

[levans.124749]

I am having problems with Printing pdf that i have made form a AutoCAD.
I use the "wipeout" command. when I make the pdf it looks fine.
But when it prints out the area with wipeout around them area black!

What do I do?
After stressing out all day on this issue, here is MY SOLUTION:

First, my problem: I recently incorporated wipeouts into many of our blocks and started using background masks on our text. We xref architect's drawings into our files and screen them back, then we put our symbols on top of their xrefs. Wipeouts and background masks have made our drawings look neat and pretty, so I have been very happy with these new tools until today. One of the architects we sent a pdf to called to say that, even though the wipeouts look correct in the pdf (our text masking was a different story), the drawings were plotting with all of the wipeouts completely black. They printed perfectly fine in my office. (For the record, I created my pdfs using AcroPlot Pro). This is how a long day of research on this topic began.

What didn't work at all? I tried lots of things that people have posted on multiple forums. Somebody suggested making sure that when printing from adobe choose "print document" instead of "print document and mark ups". This made no difference for me. I also debated on whether or not having the wipeout frames turned off or on in your drawings would make a difference, and that didn't matter. Making a "no plot" wipeout layer didn't work, because this makes the wipeouts useless - you end up seeing lines behind your wipeout.

What kind of worked? I really didn't want to try the suggested solution of making a new wipeout layer with the color of 255, because this seemed so time consuming! I even used the script that had been posted in one of these forums to make this process simpler, but I found that the script didn't modify wipeouts inside of blocks, and that I had to modify dozens of blocks individually (In each drawing file) to use this solution. It seemed like the best idea, so I tried it, and it worked --- but don't stop reading here -- I still found a better solution.... bear with me. So I spent a while modifying blocks one by one, and putting all of my wipeouts on a 255 colored wipeout layer. Then I used AcroPlot to create a pdf. It worked for my wipeouts! However, my MText still was misbehaving (my pdf shows different hatches showing up behind/around the text masking areas). This made me unhappy after spending all of that time modifying blocks... so then I tried something else.

I wondered if my problem could be AcroPlot (which everyone on these forums seems to love as a solution to this problem). Even though I've been really happy with AcroPlot, I decided to create my pdfs from AutoCAD using "DWG to PDF.pc3" as my Printer/Plotter. This worked beautifully.

My simple solution: I found that plotting or publishing from AutoCAD using "DWG to PDF.pc3" solved my problem entirely WITHOUT modifying blocks or adding new wipeout layers at color 255. After a long day of trying many things (believe me, I didn't list them all), the simple fix (for me) is that AutoCAD seems to have the best tool to create pdfs built right in! My Mtext issue is gone. My wipeout issue is gone. I don't have to modify hundreds of blocks in hundreds of files. I don't have to incorporate scripts into our drawings. I don't even have to save the plotter type to my layout in my page setup manager if I don't want to! It seems too good to be true. I half expect that tomorrow I'll be posting that I was mistaken, but for now, "DWG to PDF.pc3" is the fix for me. Does it work for you?

Lisa

[jonathan.dakin]

I found out that the DPI used when creating the PDF has an impact. Using PDF995 the DPI was 300 and the wipeout would not be completely filled black. I changed it to 1200 DPI it became completely black. I set it to 144 DPI and bingo it worked making it have no fill at all.

I am now trying to see if an adjustment can be made allowing for 300 DPI to be used.

[gfreddog]

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My simple solution: I found that plotting or publishing from AutoCAD using "DWG to PDF.pc3" solved my problem entirely WITHOUT modifying blocks or adding new wipeout layers at color 255. After a long day of trying many things (believe me, I didn't list them all), the simple fix (for me) is that AutoCAD seems to have the best tool to create pdfs built right in! My Mtext issue is gone. My wipeout issue is gone. I don't have to modify hundreds of blocks in hundreds of files. I don't have to incorporate scripts into our drawings. I don't even have to save the plotter type to my layout in my page setup manager if I don't want to! It seems too good to be true. I half expect that tomorrow I'll be posting that I was mistaken, but for now, "DWG to PDF.pc3" is the fix for me. Does it work for you?

Lisa

We use CUTE PDF (http://www.cutepdf.com/) inhouse as well and while I may jinx myself with this next statement... here I go... we have had no issues with Wipeouts or Text Masking in our PDF's.

Fingers were crossed while typing so it took a little time to type this post and a ton of typos LOL :lol:

[MikeRobinson]

Try downloading and using the software from this website....

http://www.pdf995.com/download.html

It worked for me.

[bwilson352462]

The problem seems to be the pc3 setting of lines merge vs. lines overwrite. If I use the DWG to PDF pc3 with lines overwrite I have no problems. If I turn on lines merge...lots of filled black squares. It would be great if anyone knew a fix for this but it seems to me a software thing. The lines merge makes the drawings look great without having to worry about draw order.

[irneb]

The problem seems to be the pc3 setting of lines merge vs. lines overwrite. If I use the DWG to PDF pc3 with lines overwrite I have no problems. If I turn on lines merge...lots of filled black squares. It would be great if anyone knew a fix for this but it seems to me a software thing. The lines merge makes the drawings look great without having to worry about draw order.Unfortunately PDF never worked well with lines merge. The only way I ever got lines-merge to work properly through to a PDF is to first plot to a Raster (BMP/JPG/TIF/PNG/etc.) file and then convert that into a PDF.

[wayne_wsu508956]

Solution 1: In PDF printing dialogue, there is an "Advance" button, click it and select "print as image".Solution 2: Use any PDF printer to print the PDF file as a new PDF file with above mentioned option ticked.

[jwatkins.137246]

We were having this same issue in my firm. Took me a bit but I resolved it with a simple fix. Inside of the block i have the wipeout/mask on its own layer not layer 0. I pushed it to the back and pulled the attributes forward. In the layer manger for the mask I changed the color to 252,252,252. Once this was completed our plotted PDF's no longer had all the masks filled solid black.

[lemanhhung0302396318]

Install the AutoCAD 2016 SP1 will fix this error.

Wipeout and masked text prints black when using the DWG to PDF PC3 file under Printer/Plotter.

More information follow the Readme http://download.autodesk.com/us/support/files/autocadlt_2016_service_pack_1/AutoCAD_2016_and_AutoCAD_LT_2016_SP1_Enu.htm

Link download https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/downloads/caas/downloads/content/autocad-2016-service-pack-1.html

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