Contents of Viewport not plotting

[marknorthcott]

I'm trying to plot off a layout with two viewports, however once it plotted off, all i got was the bounding box for one of the viewports, with nothing in it, and the other acted normal.

it's not frozen, locked, turned off or anything like that. i've tried to copy the viewport that did work and the copy also failed to plot, i've made a new viewport and got the same no plot result, the problem replicates itself after re-loading, and doesn't print on any of the other printers either.

i've toggled just about everything i can think of with no luck.

edit: i've had to settle for making the affected layouts one viewport each.

[marknorthcott]

eep. i would've thought that a reply from someone would've happened by now.

i'm still having this problem, and it seems isolated to the particular drawing. unfortunately there's quite a lot of information in this drawing that i need to get and the problem is re-occuring with them.

is there a system variable that i don't know of that controls how many viewports can print that may have somhow been toggled accidentally?

[Wanderer]

eep. i would've thought that a reply from someone would've happened by now.

i'm still having this problem, and it seems isolated to the particular drawing. unfortunately there's quite a lot of information in this drawing that i need to get and the problem is re-occuring with them.

is there a system variable that i don't know of that controls how many viewports can print that may have somhow been toggled accidentally?could you post this drawing, please? I'm having trouble trying to figure out what might be wrong, and looking at it might be a lot easier.

[jaberwok]

perhaps - maxactvp (maximum number of active viewports) - though that shouldn't affect plotted output.

[Wanderer]

perhaps - maxactvp (maximum number of active vieports) - though that shouldn't affect plotted output.our thoughts here as well...

what does the plot preview show?

have you tried plotting to dwf or pdf?

[marknorthcott]

maxactvp was one of the first things i tried when i tried to solve the problem by browsing the help files. it was set at 64 (default)

the drawing is WAY to big to post here. Its a part of a block plan for a major city. there's quite a lot of xref's associated with it.

in paperspace both viewports are visible as if nothing is wrong. in plot preview only one of the two show the information within the frame of the viewport, such is the same with every printer driver (including dwf and pdf drivers).

this particular file has had some minor problems with it since it's creation back in 2003. it was created in v2000 and has been edited in 2004, 2006 and now 2007. there is too much information in this particular file to warrant starting over, and i've only been involved with it for 6 months (with my hiring)

[Wanderer]

Could you make a copy of it, and just delete everything but the layouts/viewports so that it would be small enough to post?

as a final effort, would it be feasible to just wblock out the modelspace contents and then recreate the layout tabs and viewports?

good luck...
the drawing is WAY to big to post here. Its a part of a block plan for a major city. there's quite a lot of xref's associated with it.

in paperspace both viewports are visible as if nothing is wrong. in plot preview only one of the two show the information within the frame of the viewport, such is the same with every printer driver (including dwf and pdf drivers).

[jaberwok]

Just a thought - try making inactive the vport that IS plotting correctly. Does the content of the other vport show in plot preview?

[marknorthcott]

i've put a copy of the file here:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=37AD38F57B8336C7

[jaberwok]

I can't get it. My OK button is grayed out. :-(

[Sally]

Just downloaded your drawing.
Which layout are you having the problem with??
Or is it them all.
You have noticed that you have frozen the layers in the ps viewport on fig 1b?
Was this when you where pulling your hair out trying to fix problem.
I know the feeling....

[Wanderer]

Sweet. Good idea...

alright... I've downloaded, and double-checked your screenshot to make sure I was in a layout the same as one you'd experienced problems with... 2A was the one you'd shown... but, I'm seeing it just fine in the plot preview (i'm not physically hooked up to a plotter otherwise I'd try that out, as well)

The one thing I must note though is that I've not opened it in 2007, I've converted it to 04 format and opened it with 2005, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference or not...
i've put a copy of the file here:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=37AD38F57B8336C7 (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=37AD38F57B8336C7)

[marknorthcott]

Just downloaded your drawing.
Which layout are you having the problem with??
Or is it them all.
You have noticed that you have frozen the layers in the ps viewport on fig 1b?
Was this when you where pulling your hair out trying to fix problem.
I know the feeling....

i did notice that.. it's my bad. when things go wrong they just start going wrong in greater and greater numbers.

this was when i isolated a layer, then switched over to model space. going back to the layout i noticed all the layers were vp frozen... it's a pain in the bum thing i noticed not too long ago. the other layer isolate button i made myself just turns everything off but the current layer, and to un-isolate i push a button that turns all the layers on, so it's very simple. if i want something off in a drawing i'll freeze it. so, unless there's a way to turn all the vp frozen layers on all at once, it's a separate reason for me to pull my hair out.

[marknorthcott]

anyways an update on the situation:

Just as i was finishing up for the day, a colleague suggested to try and detach xref's to see if it's the size or if possibly one of them is corrupted and may need to be replaced. going through that i checked the plot preview at each detach and realized that the major xref (the base plan) is either a) corrupted, or b) just to big to let the drawing work, because when it is detached from the drawing, everything works as normal.

i tried opening the small drawing (the one i uploaded) as well and got it to work as well. so the problem is most likely in the size of the drawing.

the problem isn't likely to replicate itself on the version i put online, because i cut out some xrefs which weren't necessary for the purposes of this problem.

[marknorthcott]

ok the problem has been solved. mainly through crossed fingers and a rain dance... lol.

it turns out that there was an error in one of the xrefs that didn't get fixed the first time through the audit. that audit took nearly 20 minutes to complete. this has been quite an experience to go through, i've added a few more components to a macro which i call "super-purge" which i will now use for all incoming xref's. i put it on my toolbar under the X button.

here's that macro if anyone wants to use it or criticize it... and feel free to add anything.

^C^CINDEXCTL;3;AUDIT;Y;-PU;A;*;N;-PU;R;*;N;-PU;A;*;N;-PU;A;*;N;-PU;A;*;N;PS;Z;E;QSAVE;CLOSE;

[Opie]

ok the problem has been solved. mainly through crossed fingers and a rain dance... lol.

it turns out that there was an error in one of the xrefs that didn't get fixed the first time through the audit. that audit took nearly 20 minutes to complete. this has been quite an experience to go through, i've added a few more components to a macro which i call "super-purge" which i will now use for all incoming xref's. i put it on my toolbar under the X button.

here's that macro if anyone wants to use it or criticize it... and feel free to add anything.

^C^CINDEXCTL;3;AUDIT;Y;-PU;A;*;N;-PU;R;*;N;-PU;A;*;N;-PU;A;*;N;-PU;A;*;N;PS;Z;E;QSAVE;CLOSE;
Thanks for posting your solution.

[nicksgraham701800]

I have had a similar problem in the past with multiple Xrefs not showing up in plots or view ports. It seemed to fix itself when I changed the Xrefs from attached to overlay. I don't know why or if that was even what fixed it but it is worth a shot.