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barathd
2006-08-05, 07:54 PM
What is the difference between "locking dimension" or "pinning" a wall?

Regards

Dick Barath

LRaiz
2006-08-05, 08:29 PM
This thread may help http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=34079

barathd
2006-08-05, 09:18 PM
Leonid:

I have read that thread and others and I have yet to find anyone who really has thoroughly explained the advantages between "pinning a wall" opposed to "locking a dimension". I do realize the lock tool has many other functions. I am just trying to be a little more methodical with my walls - wasting far to much time - especially on nonorthogonal wall - repositioning. Seem to get those annoying fractional differences. Have also tried to pin walls to reference lines. Just looking for a better way.

Regards

Dick Barath

greg.mcdowell
2006-08-05, 09:43 PM
From my experiences with this if you really don't want something to move you need to put it in a workset that you keep open under a different user name. I do this with grids and levels after they've been established so that they aren't accidently moved.

Locking a dimension can lead to over constraining the model and pinning is really more annoying than anything (I once worked on a project where they pinned EVERYTHING... you couldn't move without unpinning something)... if pinning an object worked more like locking a layer in AutoCAD (where you literally can't do anything with it) I might be more inclined to use it.

barathd
2006-08-05, 10:03 PM
Greg:

Helpfull comments - but the question still remains. What is the best way to constrain perimeter walls?

Thanks

Dick Barath

dhurtubise
2006-08-05, 10:24 PM
I suggest aligned and locking to grid line. Then pin the gridline.

barathd
2006-08-05, 10:28 PM
Daniel:

That is what I do when the walls are orthogonal - what do you do when they are not orthogonal. Even worst yet - I would rather not introduce grids into small residential work.

It's the nonorthogonal walls that are causing the problems. Seems like I am constantly repairing these. Reference lines are fine but eventually everything becomes littered with them. Perhaps a second or third class of reference line should be introduced so they can be selectively (but quickly) shut off.

I thinks there is still is an awful lot of improvement that could occur - starting to doubt if it will ever happen. Autodesk seems to have a deaf ear to these minor however major annoyances.

Thanks

Dick Barath

dhurtubise
2006-08-05, 11:20 PM
Unless everything is very curvy you should have grid, usually curve wall occur between those grid. If it's really all curvy then dimension and lock the dimension, that will do it.
As for residential, i agree with the grid not being present but it's usually not a big deal either. We lock footing to foundation wall then to main floor so all move together.

barathd
2006-08-06, 11:07 PM
Daniel:

Not much I would disagree with. I come from a structural background so near everything has a grid however sometimes short wall segments really don't warrant a grid - things can get unnecessarily complicated if one over does it.

Thanks

Dick Barath