Fire Rated Walls - Thinking Outside the Box

[tonyisenhoff]

I just thought of something interesting and am going to throw it out there... Not really the best solution, but the concept is there...

If you turn on the visibility of the Analytical Model for walls (see Fire Tape 1.jpg) and override the lines, you get what could represent fire tape lines... FYI - Your walls have to be "structural walls"; anything but "non-bearing" for the analytical lines to show up (see Fire Tape 2.jpg) .

Take that a step further (since all of the analytical lines look the same) and use the new Filter tool to alter their look (see Fire Tape 3.jpg and Fire Tape 4.jpg)

End Result (Fire Tape 5.jpg)

Like I said, not the most elegant and your obviously changing the structural function of the walls and are limited to the number of filters you can use. Just thinking outside the box for a bit...

[Justin Marchiel]

that has some good potential. i wonder how this would work with a structural consultant on RS?

Justin

[tonyisenhoff]

Probably not the best. The Structural Engineer more than likely has their view's properties set to "Structural" for the Discipline. This will only show structural walls. Now if the Architect starts drawing "structural" walls, they will show up in the Structural model...

[Scott D Davis]

Great minds think alike.....see my response in This Post. (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=25816)

What I think this ultimately representents is an "easy" solution to one of our needs. The Analytical Line solution works...so the Factory just needs to duplicate this as an Architectural Application so we don't have to use the tool meant for Structures.

I think there should be a new catagory called Fire Rated (which will be just like the Bearing/shear/combined settings). Setting this catagory to anything other than None, turns on the 'Analytical lines' for the fire setting, a new sub-catagory under Walls, that we can control/filter/etc.

Factory, just duplicate the Structural analytical lines into an architectural tool so we aren't messing with the structural aspect of the model as a work around, or using some other work-around. Thanks!

[tonyisenhoff]

I did not mean to steal your thunder...

[Scott D Davis]

You didn't! I don't mind....my post was almost a year ago! It's good that these things get brought up, and obviously we thought that the analytical Line solution is a good one. It shows that there is a soultion available, and if the Factory can use this to develope a similar arch tool, then even better!

[robert.manna]

I think there should be a new catagory called Fire Rated (which will be just like the Bearing/shear/combined settings). Setting this catagory to anything other than None, turns on the 'Analytical lines' for the fire setting, a new sub-catagory under Walls, that we can control/filter/etc.

Factory, just duplicate the Structural analytical lines into an architectural tool so we aren't messing with the structural aspect of the model as a work around, or using some other work-around. Thanks!
It needs to be more than just one sub category, or something else, because we would prefer to apply different line styles to indicate the different ratings, and not just mark where the rated partitions are. In 2D Cad (ugh), we have complete custom line styles with text and the intersections even clean up! :)

-R

[Scott D Davis]

It needs to be more than just one sub category, or something else, because we would prefer to apply different line styles to indicate the different ratings, and not just mark where the rated partitions are. In 2D Cad (ugh), we have complete custom line styles with text and the intersections even clean up! :)

-R
This is probably where filters would come into play. You could specify the Rating as a parameter of the wall, and then use filters to display 1 hour differently than 2 hour rated walls.