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Brian Myers
2006-09-07, 02:52 PM
Technically this happens in Land Desktop, yet I have a feeling this is an AutoCAD error so I'm posting it here. Anyone ever see anything like the attached picture? What would cause it?

Could the XREF no longer be attached somehow?

Maverick91
2006-09-07, 03:32 PM
Technically this happens in Land Desktop, yet I have a feeling this is an AutoCAD error so I'm posting it here. Anyone ever see anything like the attached picture? What would cause it?

Could the XREF no longer be attached somehow?Dude, what did you do? :shock:

Brian Myers
2006-09-07, 03:44 PM
:p

I'm trying to figure that out! This is what a client sent another individual in our company as a screen shot. The guy that got the email yells "Brian, have you ever seen anything like this?" I came over and started laughing! I really thought for a second it was a joke email.. its not. I'm still attempting to get the facts on if this is an AutoCAD issue or related specifically to this particular drawing (waiting for an email back). I thought I'd post it on here as it has potential to be an educational solution (and doesn't reveal much about the client/project) in case anyone has seen this before and knows what could be going on. I'd suggest re-attaching the X-Ref, but its still an amazing little error...

Maverick91
2006-09-07, 04:10 PM
:p

I'm trying to figure that out! This is what a client sent another individual in our company as a screen shot. The guy that got the email yells "Brian, have you ever seen anything like this?" I came over and started laughing! I really thought for a second it was a joke email.. its not. I'm still attempting to get the facts on if this is an AutoCAD issue or related specifically to this particular drawing (waiting for an email back). I thought I'd post it on here as it has potential to be an educational solution (and doesn't reveal much about the client/project) in case anyone has seen this before and knows what could be going on. I'd suggest re-attaching the X-Ref, but its still an amazing little error...And you receive drawings from this client often?

Opie
2006-09-07, 04:28 PM
:p

I'm trying to figure that out! This is what a client sent another individual in our company as a screen shot. The guy that got the email yells "Brian, have you ever seen anything like this?" I came over and started laughing! I really thought for a second it was a joke email.. its not. I'm still attempting to get the facts on if this is an AutoCAD issue or related specifically to this particular drawing (waiting for an email back). I thought I'd post it on here as it has potential to be an educational solution (and doesn't reveal much about the client/project) in case anyone has seen this before and knows what could be going on. I'd suggest re-attaching the X-Ref, but its still an amazing little error...
Could the XREF have been overwritten or somehow become corrupted during this drawing's session?

And no I have never seen this before. ;)

Buffeldrek
2006-09-07, 04:54 PM
Have never seen that either - i doubt its from an x-ref, besides your client can check the xref manager or there are any unresolved attachments.
But surtain is that there is something really wrong with the layers, maybe an error in the dwg database.

You should errect an autocad funniest screenshots, put it besides the autocad gallery :-)

Brian Myers
2006-09-07, 05:15 PM
You should errect an autocad funniest screenshots, put it besides the autocad gallery :-)

Yep!

Actually the more I look at it the more I think he may be pulling our leg, that red X crosses over a spot in the lower right corner that shouldn't be possible.

Still, a funny error...even funnier if it proves true. I'll let everyone know.

rkmcswain
2006-09-07, 05:41 PM
Actually the more I look at it the more I think he may be pulling our leg

Hmmmm, that's what I was thinking.

Brian Myers
2006-09-07, 05:54 PM
Hmmmm, that's what I was thinking.

Funny thing is that this guy isn't a practical joker... but the guy that claims to have this happen in his office might be. IF this is real, only an actual issue with AutoCAD itself could be causing this as it extends away from just data and into the actual program environment...so I've recommended that:

1.) Make sure that others can open this file OK... they should be able to. If they can't then please send me the file.
2.) If others can open it fine then do a repair of AutoCAD... if this doesn't solve it then do a complete re-install.
3.) If this error still occurs (or it gets solved) let me know, I really want to see it resolved and this goes into my records as one of the strangest actions I've ever seen in an AutoCAD session...

I love helping people solve their problems, its the most educational experience you'll ever get...fixing other people's mistakes. I get a smile (grimace) then smile again on my face almost every day as a strange thing crosses my desk... I really enjoy this job! :beer:

Brian Myers
2006-09-07, 07:02 PM
FYI: The problem was indeed a real one. I have a reliable set of eyes that saw it, yet it only happened once. That install was having issues on and off over the past few weeks (freezing in the middle of the project, etc) so I'm having them do a repair and if that still doesn't work, a reinstall of the software.

Sooo... the above image can officially be entered into the oddest AutoCAD error message Hall of Fame. :beer:

Maverick91
2006-09-07, 07:44 PM
FYI: The problem was indeed a real one. I have a reliable set of eyes that saw it, yet it only happened once. That install was having issues on and off over the past few weeks (freezing in the middle of the project, etc) so I'm having them do a repair and if that still doesn't work, a reinstall of the software.

Sooo... the above image can officially be entered into the oddest AutoCAD error message Hall of Fame. :beer:Could it be a computer/OS issue?

Brian Myers
2006-09-07, 10:40 PM
Could it be a computer/OS issue?

I don't think its an OS issue, but one of my first thoughts was that it might be a graphics card issue. There have been some documented cases where AutoCAD responds funny (black areas, lack of menu completely, etc) with certain graphics cards, yet none of them have been documented to create a "red X" error like this one. It'll be my next suggestion if a reinstall doesn't solve the issue.

rkmcswain
2006-09-07, 10:43 PM
Since the Layer Dialog is one of these new .NET things, maybe you could poke around in some of the .NET forums to see if this RED "X" has something to do with that...

It still looks hokey to me :-)

Brian Myers
2006-09-07, 10:45 PM
And you receive drawings from this client often? I missed this post at first... yes, very, very smart guy... he can out VBA most of the people on AUGI... he's one of those guys you go "oh-oh" when he asks you a question because you know you won't know the answer right away because if it was easy he would have answered it. If he asks it I give it instant credibility... I think he asked just because it was so strange even he had no idea what could cause it...

Brian Myers
2006-09-07, 10:47 PM
Since the Layer Dialog is one of these new .NET things, maybe you could poke around in some of the .NET forums to see if this RED "X" has something to do with that...

It still looks hokey to me :-)

Good advice, if it comes back to me I'll suggest/look into it!
:beer:

Wanderer
2006-09-08, 12:39 AM
Technically this happens in Land Desktop, yet I have a feeling this is an AutoCAD error so I'm posting it here. Anyone ever see anything like the attached picture? What would cause it?

Could the XREF no longer be attached somehow?Whoa, that's wild. I had a problem (I think it was maybe on 05? ) where that area was blank, but, never seen it with a big red X across it? Wild.

Mike.Perry
2006-09-08, 03:58 AM
Hi

You may wish to browse the following Autodesk Knowledge Base article, as it might offer one or two things worth taking a look at...

ID: TS101037 - Text missing in Layer Manager dialog box (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?siteID=123112&id=5100139&linkID=2475323)

Have a good one, Mike

Brian Myers
2006-09-08, 04:51 AM
Thanks Mike

I'd actually seen that error (heck, it happened to me!) in AutoCAD 2005, so that's why I mentioned certain graphics cards above. But its a good link and I'm glad you posted it here. It's the next thing on my list to check as its an easier fix than the .NET research...

Good link!

Maverick91
2006-09-08, 04:11 PM
I missed this post at first... yes, very, very smart guy... he can out VBA most of the people on AUGI... he's one of those guys you go "oh-oh" when he asks you a question because you know you won't know the answer right away because if it was easy he would have answered it. If he asks it I give it instant credibility... I think he asked just because it was so strange even he had no idea what could cause it...and you normally trust his drawings?