Surface Pattern Lineweight

[dbaldacchino]

Is there still no way to modify the lineweight of surface/cut fill patterns? I have ceiling surface patterns that show up in a ceiling plan but they print very light and will get lost once reduced copies are made from the original set.

[Justin Marchiel]

the only thing that i could think about is usuing a darker colour for your material (if you material had a light colour). I dont see any other options for surface patterns (including floors, or walls)

Justin

[dbaldacchino]

Thanks, that won't work as I have a white material with a surface fill pattern (typical of documentation). We really need to have control over the lineweight of cut and surface patterns.

[Mark Vorstenbosch]

We really need to have control over the lineweight of cut and surface patterns.

That is a very good wish.

[dgraue]

It's very strange that we've been given control of these pattern lineweights in Region Fill but not elsewhere. Since this control does exist in Region Fill I have to believe it will be fairly simple for factory to apply this method to surface/cut fill for object materials. I hope we can expect to see this in the next release. ;)

DG


Thanks, that won't work as I have a white material with a surface fill pattern (typical of documentation). We really need to have control over the lineweight of cut and surface patterns.

[leerevit]

and you can control surface/cut pattern even in CAD exporting into different layers. But just can't control natively in Revit, too bad!

[tory.puglisi]

It seems the lineweight of cut/fill/surface/projection patterns is controlled by Model Line Weight 1. There really should be a separate control for this, as I have many other elements on this line weight and it really slows down the "workflow" to discover this half way through documenting a project. I would have expected more from such an expensive program.

[t1.shep]

It seems the lineweight of cut/fill/surface/projection patterns is controlled by Model Line Weight 1. There really should be a separate control for this, as I have many other elements on this line weight and it really slows down the "workflow" to discover this half way through documenting a project. I would have expected more from such an expensive program.
Many people have realized this and adjusted their line settings accordingly. They will dedicate lineweight "1" to fill patterns only and make #2 their number "1".
That way you can adjust your fill patterns, without affecting your other linework.

[benmay]

Even more frustrating is that when you apply a surface pattern by using a filter, you are stuck with the surface pattern lineweight being set to whatever the elements object style is set at for projection lineweight.

This is quite common for me when highlighting particular elements that are the same material but are somehow different in another way.

[bregnier]

It appears to me that my ceiling surface pattern lineweights are being set as line weight 2... this goes contrary to what I've heard before (and what is said in this thread). Anybody have any idea why this might be the case?

[dbaldacchino]

Very good observation...ceiling surface pattern line weight is controlled by #2 and wall surface pattern line weight is controlled by #1. Never realized this was the case. We really need control of this at the object style level.

[ron.sanpedro]

It appears to me that my ceiling surface pattern lineweights are being set as line weight 2... this goes contrary to what I've heard before (and what is said in this thread). Anybody have any idea why this might be the case?

Wow, learn something new every day. I can see the value because the ceiling grid is really a much more substantial "item" than brick grout lines and roof shingles and such. I wish it was just certain patterns in the ceiling, because texture for gyp ceilings, or variations in acoustical tiles, really still should be thinner. In the end the grid really should be a flavor of the curtain wall functionality, but who knows how long it might take to get THAT. ;)
In the mean time, I was in the process of revising our line weights to start at 2, and now I guess I will shift it to 3. Thanks for catching this!

Gordon

[dbaldacchino]

I concur, always learning new stuff :) These are the hidden things that confuse and frustrate. I understand the intent was to make the software as intuitive as possible with minimal setup etc., but we live in a world of custimization and these hidden rules and assumptions do nothing but cause frustration.

As an aside note, we made slight modifications to line weights 1 through 10 from the OOTB onces and then took 11 through 16 and made them "drafting" line weights that have the same thickness regardless of scale. That way when we link a dwg at any scale, we get predictable thicknesses. It was getting quite crazy otherwise! I posted about this in detail somewhere here in the past.

[ron.sanpedro]

I concur, always learning new stuff :) These are the hidden things that confuse and frustrate. I understand the intent was to make the software as intuitive as possible with minimal setup etc., but we live in a world of custimization and these hidden rules and assumptions do nothing but cause frustration.

As an aside note, we made slight modifications to line weights 1 through 10 from the OOTB onces and then took 11 through 16 and made them "drafting" line weights that have the same thickness regardless of scale. That way when we link a dwg at any scale, we get predictable thicknesses. It was getting quite crazy otherwise! I posted about this in detail somewhere here in the past.

Dave,
I am looking at doing the same. Any chance you remember the title of that thread? I would love to see what you are doing and what comments have been made. I imagine that the "static" line weights will be very useful for diagrammatic stuff like site analysis.

Thanks,
Gordon

[dbaldacchino]

This is (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=44948) the one.

[So What]

It appears to me that my ceiling surface pattern lineweights are being set as line weight 2... this goes contrary to what I've heard before (and what is said in this thread). Anybody have any idea why this might be the case?
http://revitdialog.com/2011/01/31/surface-pattern-lineweight/

[So What]

Good idea with line #3. Why on Earth the factory has made it the way it is, still beats me...