Scheduling Curtain Panel Double Doors... To and From Room...

[Dwane Lindsey]

I'm wondering if anyone else has run into this problem. If you start a new project, the single panel doors will schedule the TO and FROM room, but the double doors will not.

The other issue (while I'm here) is that if you have an existing project that is not reading either single or double, you can not get it to schedule out the TO and FROM. Tried re-importing the family (yes, overwriting), no luck. Tried making all the single doors a completely different style, then purging out the "old" single family, import in the new one, changing them back and no luck.

Any ideas?

[Justin Marchiel]

not sure if i can help with the to from, but i found that the to from doesn't represent the side the door swing is on. i found that you can change the to from in the schedule, but your plan swing does not.

Maybe i had a glitch file, but it is something to watch out for.

Justin

[dhurtubise]

Not a glitch, that's the way it works. At least you get to pick from one of the 2 rooms, not an entire list

[Justin Marchiel]

yeah that is true, the only problem i have with that is that if it accidentally get switched on the schedule there could be problems down the road during construction. Most suppliers that i have dealt with will create a hardware or door schedule with looking at the least amount of info possible. if the to from is included but reversed from plan they will show this configuration on there shop drawings. if the person checking the shops is not careful enough this error could make its way thru to the construction site and the contractor installing the door (useally not the same as the supplier) will get the door and ask why he was not notified of the change. since information on schedules over rules info on plans, the supplier would be right and there would have to be an extra to change the swing of the door.

Just wanted to bring up that point. not saying that it is no good, just saying be careful how the info is used.

Justin

[Dwane Lindsey]

Thanks for the rely guys, but I already know about the swing and how the TO and FROM work regarding the actual swing. I completely agree with jmarchiel-barch....the person doing the actual shop drawings are not always the most thorough and if the person reviewing the shops take the same approach, get ready for a huge conflict in the field. With the firms that I've been working with and setting up schedules, a lot are using the TO or FROM parameters to get the Room Name or Room Number in the Door Schedule...since we can't get this info from the actual room object yet :( This is actually why I'm trying to figure out why the double doors do not schedule the room info that the other doors do. I may look at making a duplicate of the single door and make it a double, just to see if it makes a difference.

But, this still doesn't help the existing projects that don't schedule anything. I'm really not wanting to go down the road of copying everything to a new project file....but I may have to.

[Davied2]

Dwane

I had exactly the same problem with the double door not showing to/from rooms last week.

I have put in a support request and will let you know then answer.

However, I would be interested to hear anyone else's work arounds of thoughts on this matter.

Dave

[twiceroadsfool]

We have the same problem with curtain wall Double doors... Enough so that for small storefronts im considering making them a custom door family, without using a stoerfront.

If i go to a new file, and put a few walls and 2 rooms in, and insert a curtain wall with a double door, it sometimes works fine. Not always, but sometimes. Ive tried different experiments to see how it correlates with where ni the wall the curtain wall is embedded, with no discernable cause and effect.

We've (unfortunately) gone to using a text parameter field to simply enter this information in, as were doing a mall with a few hundred curtain wall doors, and we cant fuss with it to get it to work properly. While i can occasionally get it to work in a new test file, i simply cant get it to work at all in our 3 files using the same storefront system...

The manual dumb text override that we're doing completely sucks, but until we figure something else out...

[robert.manna]

Is everyone here using the Out Of Box (OTB) content for the double door? We created a whole custom library of doors (built from scratch) and no one has yet reported a problem. Not to say it won't turn up.... Just curious.

Thanks,
-R

[dfriesen]

We created a whole custom library of doors (built from scratch)... That's an admirable accomplishment, and I'm jealous.

(Note to self - must give up having a life, and commit myself to building a whole new library.) ;)

[robert.manna]

That's an admirable accomplishment, and I'm jealous.

(Note to self - must give up having a life, and commit myself to building a whole new library.) ;)Thanks... commutes home & a laptop are very handy for creating family libraries.

Once you build a solid base, with doors it isn't too hard to build more.

Compartmentalize, nested families are your friends, door swings, leafs in plan, hardware...

We (I) I built only the basics, single flush, single glazed, single vision, double flush, double glazed, double vision, curtain wall of all the same, plus a couple of odds ones, a paneled example (don't do much work where paneled doors are called for), a double acting example (which actually only employees a nested detail component to create the double swing), a double uneven and a single with sidelite. Like I said though, you get a basic single flush working (shared paremeters, LOD on frames, hardware visibility, etc..), its not very hard to expand...

edit: Oh! and type catalogs (once everything flexes ok) man are they your friend on something like a door.

And no one has answered my question yet! :)

-R

[dfriesen]

Thanks... commutes home & a laptop are very handy for creating family libraries.It'll be awkward balancing the laptop on my bicycle handlebar...


Compartmentalize, nested families are your friends, door swings, leafs in plan, hardware...Thanks for the tips. I've been getting used to the nested families method, and finding it really useful. I've got the "Build a Better Door" tutorial, and it makes sense. I haven't tried much with shared parameters yet, and nothing with type catalogs - I've got some things to learn.


And no one has answered my question yet! :)
We use mostly OTB families, with other stuff picked up here 'n' there. Haven't used the To and From parameters.