Openings in Structural walls

[DanielleAnderson]

Okay - I have some issues with the way openings in walls work and the fact that there isn't more control over them when they are drawn in plan. They don't seem to want to align or snap to anything.
However, before I complain, I would like to know how others out there are dealing with things like openings in shaft walls, particularly for something like, say, an exit stair wall that is part of the shaft. The opening where the door goes would be a 5'x8' hole cut out of the shear wall, then a framed wall with the door in it would be inserted in - this I understand to be typical in a high-rise. I have been dealing with this by putting an opening into the shaft wall in plan, then inserting a framed wall inside of that, but it doesn't seem to clean up well or act accurately. Thoughts?

[robert.manna]

Well, besides the fact that someone else earlier today made a post about having problems with this technique.... Have you tried just embedding your "framed wall" into the "shear wall". Any basic wall can be set to auto embed or "nest" into another basic wall. So then you just have to worry about controlling the dimensions of the "framed wall", which will automatically drive the "opening". Otherwise, the only other thing I can think of is use a door template to create a blank opening, and then just insert the "frame wall" as required, don't know though that will help with "cleaning up."

HTH,
-R

[Steve_Stafford]

The Modelling > Opening feature (Pick a Wall option) is one of the least consistent features in Revit. Almost like someone from outside the core programming team wrote it. No sketch mode to make it and no Edit button to change it. Very inconsistent eh?

Basic Walls do not automatically embed, only curtain walls have that feature, a type parameter. You have to draw the wall over the other wall and use Cut Geometry to embed it. Take care to pick the host wall first. Follow up with join geometry will make the walls "blend" together. Unless you want a hard edge between them?

[dbaldacchino]

This would be another great scenario for nesting walls into families, if walls were not just system families. You could build a door with a surrounding wall (you could even add a family parameter to swop between different wall types) and insert this door&wall family in your shaft wall. Of course this is not possible. The closest you can get is to build a door with a "wall" frame made up of extrusions, etc. with assigned materials. The drawback is that you cannot schedule this wall as it doesn't belong to that category.

[cphubb]

Here are 2 examples of wall inserts. One uses an openng which works fine but will be hard to edit down the line. The other is a wall embeded in the concrete wall. To edit this move stretch or otherwise edit the embeded wall and the concrete will update.