Copying Schedules brings in unwanted viewports

[dbaldacchino]

I'm working on an office template and wanted to copy some schedules from a previous project. They are mostly key schedules, but I also have a drawing list and a room schedule with occupancy calcs.

For some odd reason, they are bringing in with them some unwanted viewports, which I cannot get rid of as they don't show up in the dialog when I try to purge unused. I have nothing placed on sheets (in fact, there are no sheets in this template) and as far as I know, when you place a schedule, there's no viewport associated with it. Does anyone know what is going on? Thanks for your help!

[robert.manna]

odd, we just did the same thing a couple days ago, without a problem. Pulled some schedules from a pretty compelex project and dropped them into our "demo" project building we have for testing etc...


What do you mean by "unwanted" viewports. Can you be a little more specific? Screen shots?

-R

[dbaldacchino]

By "unwanted", I mean viewports that were created in the project file where I'm copying the schedules from. I don't understand why a schedule would be pulling viewports in the first place. I've already created viewports in my template, named the way we want them. The viewport that comes in is somehow being "used" by the schedule as it won't show up in the purge dialog. It will only show up in the purge unused dialog after deleting the schedules I just pasted.

[robert.manna]

In the project that you're exporting the schedule from, is the schedule on a sheet? If so, try removing it from the sheet, the exporting. I suspect that because the schedule is on a sheet, the viewport is now "attached" to the schedule in some way. Some sort of dependacy, which makes since, because if you moved the schedule from one sheet to another, you would probably want to keep the same viewport etc, they're probably making the same assumption when you export the schedule to be used on another sheet.

Our schedules weren't on sheets, nor did we even look at the sheets or viewports to worry about it.

-R

[dbaldacchino]

But see, that's the point....even if the schedule was placed on a sheet, there is no viewport associated with it. See attached image of when a schedule is placed on sheet and highlighted....there is no viewport option.

I'm not saving out the schedules and then inserting them, because most of what I want in my template are Key Schedules and you cannot save those out (option greyed out). I'm just selecting them in the project browser, copying to clipboard and pasting them into the template. All these schedules are "working" schedules and are not on sheets, even in the original project.

[robert.manna]

I got nothin' then....

Sorry...

-R

[dbaldacchino]

NP Robert.....I think I'll file an SR on this and report back any findings. Thanks for trying!

[truevis]

Remember how we used to have to put schedules on a sheet before we could copy and paste them into another project?

Maybe this is a vestigial part of that. Just that newer versions of Revit let you copy straight from the project browser.

:?:

[dbaldacchino]

Could be....I've been using Revit since 8.1 so I'm not sure when that changed. But again...schedules on sheets don't have viewports assigned to them. So if what you're saying is the case, then there must be some hidden, internal relationship between the two. In fact, when I purge, only a couple of viewports show up in the dialog. If I delete all the schedules and try purge unused again, all viewports show up in the dialog....they seem to become "released" when no schedules are present.

[dbaldacchino]

Ok, heard back from Support....it is a known issue (bug), scheduled to be fixed in some upcoming major release. Thanks Leo!

EDIT: I figured a workaround....in the project file where you're copying schedules from, rename the "unwanted" viewport to a viewport name that already exists in your template or project where you're going to paste these schedules. You might have to copy these to an empty project file or template first, and then do the above (I'd do a purge just in case too). Now, copy the schedules and paste them in their final destination. Revit will warn you that there are duplicate types and only those in the project will be used. Thus, the pesky viewport is eliminated!

[tc3dcad60731]

That is wild! We have copied over schedules before from one project to the next and all we had to do was label what doors and windows were on what levels. It automatically picked up the names, qtys, etc with no vports being pulled with it.

[dbaldacchino]

I know....they bring in any parameters necessary etc. I don't know why viewports were also coming in as they're not used with schedules, but somehow there's a hidden connection. At least I figured a way to get a clean template without redundant and undeletable viewports.