G.S.F. Per Bed Calc

[krista.manna]

I've been working on a dormitory & need to know the gross square foot per bed.

I can create a schedule showing the total G.S.F. of the building.
I can create a schedule showing the total number of beds.

I cannot find any way to have both of them in one schedule so I can can have a calculated value automatically telling me the G.S.F per bed.

Any ideas and/or suggestions?

-K-

[ford347]

Well you could create an area scheme for this and use area boundaries to define the area's per bed. This would work. If this is relative to rooms, you could do it that way. If you have multiple beds per room and that is your stumbling block, then you can use room seperation lines to define the seperation point in the room that belongs to each bed. Does the square footage need to be literally gross, like splitting interior walls etc., or is it ok to use the square footage defined by the wall face boundaries. the answeres to those questions will determine which method you would go with.

Josh

[robert.manna]

Well you could create an area scheme for this and use area boundaries to define the area's per bed. This would work. If this is relative to rooms, you could do it that way. If you have multiple beds per room and that is your stumbling block, then you can use room seperation lines to define the seperation point in the room that belongs to each bed. Does the square footage need to be literally gross, like splitting interior walls etc., or is it ok to use the square footage defined by the wall face boundaries. the answeres to those questions will determine which method you would go with.

Josh
Thanks for the thoughts, however we know all that. One of the biggest problems is the maintenance required for any of your suggested plans of action. Also, using just the dorm bedrooms themselves would leave out a considerable amount of additional space in the building that needs to be counted towards the building gross. In this case there are multiple beds per room, and we have the 2D furniture in place because we need to see it in plan for presentations purposes. We also have a gross area plan in place to calculate the building gross area per floor plate. So the question is, anyone got some additional suggestions on how to make use of the information we do have in the model already?

Thanks,
-R

[Teresa.Martin]

Hi!
You could add a parameter to the bed family that calculates the area based on bed size.
Bed Area = Length * Width. You can then total up all the bed areas using a calculated total for the column. You can subtract this from the room areas. Alas there does not seem to be a way to get the bed areas and the room areas on the same schedule but it will let you put the beds and a room name and number in the same schedule. Then you can compare the room area to the bed area. Not exactly what you want, but it will at least give the the GSF for the beds!

Best regards,
Teresa Martin
Senior Application Specialist
Ideate Inc.

[sbrown]

The only way to do what you want is with a shared parameter and a manual entry. Basically you need to make a parameter for the number of beds, then type in this value and have this new field added to both schedules so its easy to just edit the total while viewing the bed schedule. so when it changes you have to manually update only 1 number. so its not that bad. I've done this for comparing gross to net areas before.

[cphubb]

K
If this does not have to be done in a schedule in Revit, it can easily be accomplished using a report in MS Access based on the output from Revit. However it is more work than what Scott is describing, we do that method often as well. The Access version has more integrity and updates are faster than the other method depending on the number of rooms and beds you have.

[ford347]

Sorry for the useless info....I didn't understand you wanted the actual square footage of the beds themselves. Never ran into this. Sorry.

Josh

[robert.manna]

Sorry for the useless info....I didn't understand you wanted the actual square footage of the beds themselves. Never ran into this. Sorry.

Josh
No, no, not useless, just a misunderstanding. You were trying to help, and in my book that is what counts. Basically what is comes down to is the school wants to know, for each bed, how much dorm are they buying, and thus with a square footage cost, how much dorm are they buying per bed. The cost of building a dorm is all about how much are spending per the number of students in a dorm, the number of beds represents the number of students, and since we need a family instance for each bed, cause we need to show it plan, it logically makes sense that we would want to use the information we've got, to calculate the values we want.

-R

[ford347]

Good to know. I've never done that kind of work before. Makes sense. I have some residential assisted living facilities and these types of analysis are great to bring to the owner's, especially if they didn't request it. So if you find your solution, please post it. I would like to know for future reference. Thanks.

Josh.