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dpasa
2006-12-12, 07:17 AM
I want to make a rectangular reveal applied to a curved wall (arc) but all templates have straight walls. So, I made a generic model not wall hosted, I send you the file. I insert this family using the wall's center point and the radius of the wall arc. But, when I try to use Cut, it doesn't work, I guess because it is not a wall hosted family. That's the only reason I see because when I make a family like this on a straight wall, it works ok.
Please let me know if you have any idea

robert.manna
2006-12-12, 01:49 PM
Why not use a wall sweep either integral or applied to create your reveal? All you should need to do is create a profile of what the reveal should be like.


-R

dpasa
2006-12-12, 03:12 PM
No, a sweep profile won't do the job because I will have to controll every dimension, that means I will have to control the profile and the angle. So, this is not possible.
It has to be done with a family... And as I said, the problem is that since the void is just a generic model, not wall hosted, the cut command is not working... This is very bad, there should be easy to have the possibility to use parametric solids/voids and make them react with building elements.
Also what I see now is that we need a template with a curved wall where I can adjust the radius. because when I am in the material editor there is no way to draw a wall.

Scott D Davis
2006-12-12, 05:55 PM
Why not use an embedded wall? Draw an arc'd wall, and another arc'd wall on top, cut geometry to cut the embedded wall from the host. Adjust the top and bottom, and the endpoitns of the embedded wall to suit your needs.

dpasa
2006-12-13, 09:12 PM
Sorry Scott, can't do what you say, I guess I don't understand something.
I make two walls, one inside the other (like we do with curtain walls) but cut geometry doesn't work, is there a setting I have to adjust? Curtain walls can be set to be auto embedded but what about common walls?

Anyway, this would be just a temp. solution , I believe we should be able to do what I need, it is basic 3d modeling.

robert.manna
2006-12-14, 04:35 PM
Will an in-place family that is just a void work? If you set the in-place family to the wall category you should then be able to cut the wall with it. I confess to not quite understanding the issue, maybe some sketches would help.

-R

Scott D Davis
2006-12-14, 04:59 PM
Sorry Scott, can't do what you say, I guess I don't understand something.
I make two walls, one inside the other (like we do with curtain walls) but cut geometry doesn't work, is there a setting I have to adjust? Curtain walls can be set to be auto embedded but what about common walls?

Anyway, this would be just a temp. solution , I believe we should be able to do what I need, it is basic 3d modeling.
Common walls dont have the "automatic" embed settings. Use Cut Geometry, and pick the host, and then the embedded wall. It works! I've done it many times. When you place the second wall over the top of the first, watch for the yellow warning dialog box to pop-up in the lower right corner. It tells you that the walls are overlapping, and to use cut geometry to cut one from the other.

Steve_Stafford
2006-12-14, 04:59 PM
When solutions are offered and you insist they won't work you'll have to be more specific. Show us the wall you want this reveal on. An in-place family will certainly provide the result you want but it will have to be applied to each location specifically. A profile assigned to a sweep built into the wall will also provide what you've described. So without more info we can't appreciate why you find the offered solutions unsatisfactory.