How to show wall phases in a legend

[Nevine]

How can you bring a wall type into a legned a make it show as on the plans.
Dashed for demolished wall and shaded for existing walls?

[ford347]

As of now you can't create a legend view, place a wall as a legend component and set a phase to it, which would be ideal, but you can't do it. You could just create a legend view, draw the walls using detail lines and filled regions to emulate the same filters you have set for phasing. Not the best, but that's probably what I would do to keep it simple. It's that, or create some real walls somewhere off the grid, do a call out of them and actually assign phases and demo one of them, then place that on a sheet.


Josh

[Nevine]

That's what I've done but it is so Un-Revit like. Thanks for the reply. I was hoping I was missing something.

[Steve_Stafford]

The assumption seems to be that these things are drawn "once" conventions and reused. Unfortunately it works so easily within the context of modelling the building that it is natural to want or assume that it should work in the legends too. It doesn't help the legends can't be shared between projects like other 2D views can be. Hopefully they'll close the loop on the legend feature set.

[robert.manna]

I don't have Revit on front of me, so I can't try this. But what if you place a wall in a legend and use the linework tool to overide its graphic appearance to match the phased wall(s) in the model?

-R

[dbaldacchino]

Don't believe that because now we're in a BIM world, that 2D suddenly is all out of the window. I, for a moment, started believing in this when I got into Revit. But that's still far from the truth. We'll get there perhaps some day, in the meantime, 2D is still very useful, and a little "manual" coordination on our side is still required, albeit not as much as before.

[ford347]

what if you place a wall in a legend and use the linework tool to overide its graphic appearance to match the phased wall(s) in the model?
I thought the same thing, but the linework tool is disabled.....???? I dont' understand that since the legend view is a 2d view. It would make sense that at least all of the 2d tools would be availiable?
Anyway, it is funny how we react when we do have to do something maually. It would be nice if everything was up to speed with the BIM concept, but it looks like some things will just have to come in due time. But it does make sense that you should be able to control the legend components more like you do your actual model components, that would sure speed a few things up.

Josh

[Mike Sealander]

Not to change the subject, but I'm irked at my inability to dimension walls in a legend.

[jcoe]

Go to Settings>Phases and create a phase before your existing phase (call it legends). Now go to one of your existing views in your project browser, duplicate it, go to view properties and apply the new phase to the view. Make sure to change the Phase filter to Show New Only. Now you can draw walls of any length, use the linework tool, dimension, tag, create sections etc.

I think that all the comments regarding the legends are right on. I would also add that they need to put the detail number function back into the legend views along with the ability to save the view to an external file.

[aaronrumple]

Here's a sample of using phasing to layout partition types as well as things like storefront types. The blank phase after the "Types and Legends" phase helps avoid these typical objects from overlapping into the existing and new phases without getting into a lot of phase filters. I've found phase filters one of the more difficult concepts for users to grasp.

[s.gleeson720119]

1. Create a new floor plan level that is clear of all cropped regions used for plans and elevations and labelled Phase Legend
2. Change View Range to only show this level and view properties to 'show crop region'
3. Set Phase Filter in Properties to Show All
4. Place sample lengths of wall sufficient for each phase that you wish to appear on the legend in a column. Dimensions and constrain them as equidistant.
5. If you want to indicate different types of wall, create a new column for each wall type
6. Change the phase of each wall to the phase required to be shown in the legend
7. Place annotation adjacent to each wall type that describes what is now shown
8. Insert heading of 'Phase Legend' if required
9. Crop view to suit
10. Insert Phase Legend as viewport onto Sheet
11. Edit the viewport properties to turn off the title

Will need to adjust text size depending on scale required for view where it is placed on the sheet. Hope this helps and yes it would be great ifAutodesk would make a much simpler process. All the elements and associated data are already within the program and it should only be a matter of adding more functionality.