Controling the Lineweight of Reveal Line work

[ddarling]

I am using reveals in a concrete wall to cut the wall into tilt up panels and this is working well. The reveal profile is exactly what is needed in plan. In elevation, the reveals look good except that the line weight of the reveal linework is too heavy. Is it possible to control the line weight and style of the lines in elevation and/or hide selected lines produced by the reveal profile in elevation?

[dhurtubise]

You can use the linework tools to modify the line used by the reveal.

[ddarling]

Thank you for your suggestion.

I have tried to affect the line work in the reveal family and I do not see any place to set the line work type or weight.

When I pick a reveal in elevation (or plan) and select properties I do not see and place to set the line work type or weight.

Am I missing something or is there another way to get to the line work in a reveal?

Dan Darling

[Scott D Davis]

Problem is that when you use a reveal on the wall, the wall is cut. Revit displays this cut as a wall edge projection. Typically reveals are very small, but a wall projection line weight is a thicker line. Put a thick line on each side of a 1/2" reveal, and it gets really thick-looking in 1/8" scale or even 1/4" sclae elevations.You can use the linework tool to correct this, but you must click on every line of every reveal, and sometimes each line takes a couple of clicks to pick the wall edge and the reveal edge. There is no Object Style that will allow a setting for reveals, but there needs to be.

[ddarling]

Scott:

I still do not understand.

When I pick the reveal and can cycle through the various line elements of the reveal and pick any one of them. Having done that I still see no place in the properties of the chosen reveal element where I can change the line weight.

[Scott D Davis]

its done using the linework tool...look intot he toolbars, and find the fountain-pen-looking icon. Change the "pen weight" or linetype in the type selector pulldown and start picking lines in the view.

This isn't a "properties" driven function, its view by view, reveal by reveal. a time consuming process for a large model with many reveals and many views.

[ddarling]

Sometimes I wonder about myself. I simply did not properly read you instructions. Though tedious the desired look is achieved.

Thanks

[ron.sanpedro]

its done using the linework tool...look intot he toolbars, and find the fountain-pen-looking icon. Change the "pen weight" or linetype in the type selector pulldown and start picking lines in the view.

This isn't a "properties" driven function, its view by view, reveal by reveal. a time consuming process for a large model with many reveals and many views.

On the one hand, I think the fact that I can't control the lineweight of the reveal globally is a bug, but on the other hand, when a reveal is that small, it makes sense most of the time to show it as a line, either a model line or a split face. Now what would be great is a reveal that was a line at Course and Medium detail, and an actual reveal in Fine detail. Maybe that is actually sexy enough to get added to a new release?

Gordon

[ddarling]

Gordon:

Your suggestion to use the detail level control for reveals (and sweeps also) would have worked in my case. This would be much like the manner in which structural beam visibility is controlled.

This should be considered for later released of the product.

[Arnel Aguel]

There is no Object Style that will allow a setting for reveals, but there needs to be.Agree to this completely if there is one for wall sweep why not wall reveal.

[Chad Smith]

It's a little back-to-front and somewhat confusing, that the Reveal sub-category is accessible from the sweep but not an actual reveal.

[benmay]

Anyone have any further developments on this issue? You cant have two lots of linework in a profile, i.e. A line for coarse & a line for medium & fine so that option is out?

I really dont want to use the linework tool on 100+ panels, and I would rather not spilt all my panels either.

[Jit]

you could duplicate the view and have both on the top of each other

1 being coarse , the other fine

try that

[Kaotik]

There is no Object Style that will allow a setting for reveals, but there needs to be.

Hey Scott...Is there ever going to be??? I just got asked this question again today. You work there now, so has anything changed since this post started? Does anyone else know about a way to get this done? Thank you all for your time.

[Scott D Davis]

Problem is, the reveal cuts the wall. The thicker lines are actually the wall, which is being told to display a lineweight on the edges by Object Styles. We need a subcategory of walls, that lets us control the lineweights of cuts by reveals.

[cstanley]

this one is a major sore spot here. the work it takes to make an elevation with reveals look correct essentially negates the benefits in speed we gain from using revit. it becomes a hard sell to project managers who, from a time standpoint, do not see the benefits of using revit.

I think a more manageable method is to set the lineweight of the wall(s) by object (or view) as the lightest lineweight. then using the lineweight tool on the outer boundaries to beef them up is quicker than trying to tone down all the reveal lines. remember, most of the time, it takes 4 clicks to tone down a reveal. two visible lines, and the two edges behind them. then when the plane is divided by so many reveals, it's better to linework the outer boundaries than all the reveal lines.

did i mention this was a sore spot?

[david.kingham]

I don't use reveals anymore because of this. I just use generic models that do not actually cut the walls, just use model lines for the elevations and detail components and masking region for plans. Hopefully this link will work...
Vertical Joint.rfa (http://forums.augi.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43361)

[digidreamgrafix683931]

the only way to control reveal visibility in elevation view is by selecting wall instance in elevation and override graphics of projection line visibility.

1. right click, override graphics in view/ by element.
2.change projection lines category to desired line-weight.

this will change all reveals on that wall to projection line weight override.

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I don't use reveals anymore because of this. I just use generic models that do not actually cut the walls, just use model lines for the elevations and detail components and masking region for plans. Hopefully this link will work...
Vertical Joint.rfa (http://forums.augi.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43361)

see my other post, you may reconsider :)