ADT2006 / ACAD2006 and Microsoft Vista?

[dante]

I just purchased a notebook, which naturally, now runs on Microsoft Vista. For me it is essential to run ADT on it, except that ADT/ ACAD is not compatible with Vista?

Is Autodesk going to come out with any kind of patch to fix the compatibility issues for the ADT 2006 and others? How soon, because double booting my notebook is not a very convenient solution to this problem.

If you know anything please enlighten me.
Thanks!!!

[Ruben]

Just do a search for "Vista" on this site and you will get plenty of information. Basically, the way it stands right now is that Autodesk officially does not support Vista (or the other way around according to them), but there is going to be a patch issued some time in the future (no time frame given).

You can run Revit and ADT in Vista, without support from Autodesk, by configuring its shortcut so that it runs with Administrator privileges. See here:

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=54103&page=2&pp=10&highlight=vista

This of course is not supported and who knows what other problems you may run into.

What I would do is return the laptop and find a vendor that offers XP. For example, Lenovo offers very nice laptops and according to this page you can still get them with XP:

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/catalog.workflow:CompareByNeed?current-category-id=653343E0DE54435882FABC3CE1BC569A

[Chuckyd67]

My understanding of Vista is that it does not support the video cards used by most CAD software. ADT will work on Vista with the aforementioned patches and fixes, but bring your lunch. Some CAD software slows to 1/10 its normal speed when run on Vista.

Promises are out there, though, for ADT 2008. The question then will be: Will Vista-enabled software run on XP machines?

[Ruben]

My understanding of Vista is that it does not support the video cards used by most CAD software. ADT will work on Vista with the aforementioned patches and fixes, but bring your lunch. Some CAD software slows to 1/10 its normal speed when run on Vista.

Promises are out there, though, for ADT 2008. The question then will be: Will Vista-enabled software run on XP machines?

Many, I mean many corporations decided to skip ADT 2007 deployment and are still running ADT 2006, or older. Autodesk wants to make sure people upgrade to 2008 this time. If you were the CEO what strategy do you think would be more succesful:

- Ride on Vista's tail as an excuse, make ADT 2008 incompatible with XP, offer compelling features to entice users, and hope people are willing/able to cover the cost of upgrading their hardware, operating system, incompatible software, etc. relatively soon.

- Make ADT 2008 compatible with both Vista and XP and offer compelling features that make people want to upgrade. As people upgrade to Vista they naturally upgrade to 2008.

[sgoodmansen]

Many, I mean many corporations decided to skip ADT 2007 deployment and are still running ADT 2006, or older. Autodesk wants to make sure people upgrade to 2008 this time. If you were the CEO what strategy do you think would be more succesful:

- Ride on Vista's tail as an excuse, make ADT 2008 incompatible with XP, offer compelling features to entice users, and hope people are willing/able to cover the cost of upgrading their hardware, operating system, incompatible software, etc. relatively soon.

- Make ADT 2008 compatible with both Vista and XP and offer compelling features that make people want to upgrade. As people upgrade to Vista they naturally upgrade to 2008.
Most people are still on 2006 strictly because of the DWG format change. That was our only reason.

[H-Angus]

Most people are still on 2006 strictly because of the DWG format change. That was our only reason.

Same here, we have 2007 which I play around with to stay in the loop but all work is done using 2006.

We should all be used to these things now, it has happened before going right back to dos days, then windows of the various releases, things change software developers catch up, although we will be sticking with XP until it no longer suits our purpose or its hugely beneficial to switch. It will be interesting to see how things pan out.

[dkoch]

I just purchased a notebook, which naturally, now runs on Microsoft Vista. For me it is essential to run ADT on it, except that ADT/ ACAD is not compatible with Vista?

Is Autodesk going to come out with any kind of patch to fix the compatibility issues for the ADT 2006 and others? How soon, because double booting my notebook is not a very convenient solution to this problem.

If you know anything please enlighten me.
Thanks!!!
In a word, no. See more about that here (http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?threadID=540744).

[Steve_Bennett]

In a word, no. See more about that here (http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?threadID=540744).hahahaha!!!!

I love that vid the one guy posted on installing vista!

http://www.dumpalink.com/videos/Installing_Windows_Vista-87b3.html

[Ruben]

In a word, no. See more about that here (http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?threadID=540744).

Interesting. So it seems that the official word from Autodesk is that none of their current ADT products will be supported under Vista. And, they "do not recommend that you upgrade to
Vista".

So there it is, make sure your purchasing department knows that you will be needing XP machines for a while.

[david_peterson]

Part of the reasoning (I believe) is that I don't think Vista supports VBA; Only VB.Net. So.....Looks like someone's going to have to re-do a program. That's half the reason I've tried to stick with lisp. It's not going away as long as window still runs over dos.

[Chuckyd67]

I don't know about supporting VBA, but the primary reason is that Vista does not support open GL, which most CAD software uses. "Vista's" requirements are for a different video system, and also new video cards. This is way more than just installing new software.

[Nique]

My computer died on me so I decided to purchase a nice new Laptop.
Had I brought it earlier I would of had XP and all would be well, but all new computers are sold with Vista only (unless you buy it w/o the OS). I didn't really think that this would be a problem. There is no fix for older versions of CAD (2006). Autodesk does not have nor will they have a patch for 2006, which I believe most CAD personnel are running these days since IT managers like wait until the bugs are out before upgrading to 2007.
I did a little research in the web and I hope I found as a possible solution, Microsoft's new free program out called Virtual PC that you can install XP on...

[QUOTE=Use Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 to run multiple operating systems at the same time on the same physical computer. Switch between virtual machines with the click of a button. Use virtual machines to run legacy applications, provide support, train users, and enhance quality assurance[/QUOTE]


The only downfall of this so far is that I have to purchase a full version of XP and upgrade to Vista Ultimate or Business. But in the long run, IF this works, I'll save money and time on having to completely format my laptop and reload it with XP.

Thanks

[Avatart]

Same here, we have 2007 which I play around with to stay in the loop but all work is done using 2006.Yup, same here. Our It guys have told us we keeping well clear of Vista for the forseeable future, same applies to IE7.

[Ruben]

I did a little research in the web and I hope I found as a possible solution, Microsoft's new free program out called Virtual PC that you can install XP on...


Veronique,

You may also want to try VMware. It currently has much better performance than Virtual PC.

http://dallas.sark.com/SarkBlog/mholdorf/archive/2006/02/08/2467.aspx

This next link is from Google cache since the original page has disappeared:
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:2-mjpou2PhEJ:www.istartedsomething.com/20061124/virtual-pc-vs-parallels/+vmware+virtual+pc+2006+performance&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

[Steve_Bennett]

Interesting. So it seems that the official word from Autodesk is that none of their current ADT products will be supported under Vista. And, they "do not recommend that you upgrade to
Vista".

So there it is, make sure your purchasing department knows that you will be needing XP machines for a while.Autodesk has issued a statement saying they will release a patch for 2007 products to run on Vista, but nothing before that. Also, it may be a bit until it is released.