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Batman
2007-02-06, 10:47 PM
When in a clipped 3D View you are able to export to CAD format and get (within the CAD file) exactly what you see in the Revit 3D view.

Is there anyway to export similar to a Revit format? CAD Format loses all the good stuff that Revit files have.

Chris DiSunno
2007-02-07, 03:22 PM
? What is it you are trying to do?

Chris DiSunno
2007-02-07, 03:24 PM
Holy confusing question Batman. The Riddler hit you with his "verbal jumbler ray gun".

Batman
2007-04-12, 12:04 AM
As I said before. Basically I want to export only the visible items of what has been clipped in a 3D view (using a section box) to another Revit file.

I want it to cut the floor, roof, whatever and just give me those items just as it would when you export the same to a DWG format.

twiceroadsfool
2007-04-12, 12:07 AM
Select everything in the section box, and use copy and paste to a new project?

Batman
2007-04-12, 12:09 AM
Select everything in the section box, and use copy and paste to a new project?
That doesn't produce the result I'm needing, it won't trim/clip/cut any objects that go beyond the section box.

twiceroadsfool
2007-04-12, 12:26 AM
I forsee a couple of hours with the "split" tool in your future. :)

jamie.casile80054
2007-04-12, 01:24 AM
I'm not sure what your final goal is here, but how about just exporting it as an image?

-jamie

Batman
2007-04-12, 01:27 AM
I want to be able to just export a part of a building to play with it and provide design options on, the design option tool is too slow and cumbersome for my specific needs. Sorry, image won't do it.

Andre Baros
2007-04-12, 02:26 AM
You can't do this, but if you could, I would use it a lot.

I once put a wish into the factory for a "saw tool" which would work like the split tool but across multiple objects including sketches. This would do what your looking for only with a few extra steps.

They responded which a bunch of questions which made me think they were working on it, or at least thinking about it. This is total speculation on my part, but maybe if this is on their list, adding your two cents could push it up the list. I'm sure that they base some of their decisions on how many people request the same thing...

Batman
2007-04-12, 02:29 AM
I once put a wish into the factory for a "saw tool" which would work like the split tool but across multiple objects including sketches.....

...adding your two cents could push it up the list. I'm sure that they base some of their decisions on how many people request the same thing...
Saw Tool - I like the name.

I'll give it a try, did you submit it via the Autodesk wish link (ie. not the wishlist forum)?

twiceroadsfool
2007-04-12, 02:51 AM
Id be interested in an "export to revit - geometry" tool... Where it exports to an RVT file, but kills everything in to static geometry. No families that can be edited and saved, or saved out... No parameters that can be altered, no schedules that can be seen, etc.

I know a lot of people have asked about it, for intellectual property rights and blah blah blah.

Id want it for a host of different reasons, not for that one... Not enough to wish for it though.

The saw tool sounds promising... I could see a few interesting uses for it. Not for design options though. I found design options to be cumbersome, until i got to learning what is and isnt a good idea to do with them. Theyre big time savers in our office though, were using them a lot... :)

Good luck!

Batman
2007-04-12, 02:54 AM
Id be interested in an "export to revit - geometry" tool... Where it exports to an RVT file, but kills everything in to static geometry.
You can do this now by going to your 3D view, exporting only the region (cropped) that you want out to DWG. If you want it back into Revit simply import the 'exported' 3D.

Matt Brennan
2007-04-12, 03:00 AM
Now maybe I may not understand exactly what you are trying to do but what I have read, you may want to look into groups.

Group the objects in the section box, save the group, open in a new file, and then export into ACAD. Is that what you were looking for?

twiceroadsfool
2007-04-12, 03:03 AM
Sorry, i should have been more clear. Id like to do it just like that, but actually keep it Native Revit geometry... So (as you said) it retains all of its properties, just in a non-editable way. It would be handy for a lot of things.

I guess its a silly desire though. It would just be a 3d DWF then, im assuming, lol...

Sorry for the hijack. Saw tool sounds good. Like the way AutoCAD used to section back in the pline extrusion days, haha...

gordie_v
2007-04-12, 03:18 PM
Saw Tool - I like the name.

I'll give it a try, did you submit it via the Autodesk wish link (ie. not the wishlist forum)?

I would try a support request
I have Had good results with this
It gets logged and at least you know someone is looking at it

Andre Baros
2007-04-12, 04:18 PM
I log all my wishes here:
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=1109794

And make a point of describing my current workflow, the problem with it, and my brilliant idea for solving the problem. I've only gotten responses to about 1% of my suggestions.

Batman
2007-04-12, 10:07 PM
I've only gotten responses to about 1% of my suggestions.
Thanks for the motivating figure/s....

I have logged it in, I don't have a lot of faith but we shall see if they get in contact. I used your "Saw Tool" name. You'd better lodge your Trade Mark application.

Andre Baros
2007-04-12, 11:40 PM
1% is quite high. Once I discovered the site, I posted every day for about a year.

twiceroadsfool
2007-04-13, 02:18 AM
Theyre going to hate me now that you posted that link. Since seeing it on the Out There forum ive used it three times, LOL...

amara
2007-04-13, 09:56 AM
The "saw tool" was suggested before with the term "blue print copy", meaning converting revit bim project views / sheets into 2D line drawing within Revit.
I find this very much needed. With the revit parametric model, the whole project is in one file, and everything updated instantly. It would be often needed to keep a copy of the project at certain milestones, like "For Tender" copy, or " For Permit" etc. to keep a track of previous submittals. We often need to go back to certain details only to find that these have been changed, or corrupted with further editing of the file. Having different copies of the same file is possible but take so much space and would be too heavy on the hard drive. And with exporting to acad you lose much of the graphic standards we have set. This will also be very useful in creating typical details, where a dtail containing families or building models can ba saved as a blue print copy further use.

Batman
2007-04-13, 10:02 AM
The "saw tool" was suggested before with the term "blue print copy", meaning converting revit bim project views / sheets into 2D line drawing within Revit.
I understand your concept but frankly it sounds a little backward. Perhaps some of the new features of 2008 can help you to manage your files.

Andre Baros
2007-04-13, 04:39 PM
The new functionality of groups is a BIG step in this direction. This is going to be a huge improvement for us and really help our workflow... and we don't even do multi-unit buildings. Now if only we could split sketched elements...