wall join issues

[..shaner]

ok, this is just messed.. for some reason, these 4 walls will NOT join as a rectangle. its simple, ALL the walls have the same top and bottom constraints.. there are no profile sketches. ive disallowed joins from the little walls comming into them, now i want to know why this is happening, I DONT have time to just sit and screw around with it, and even when i get them to work.. ill save and the next day Revit just decides it wants to mess them up again!!! what is going on?

oh, ive been trimming, joining, clicking the little dots, disallowing and allowing joins, ive spent too much time trying to get this to work, i just need it to work, pleaes tell me what i need to do

[whittendesigns]

onlt 3 things i could think of. They are different structural types, they have different phases, or your wall priorities for the materials are conflicting

is it possible for you to copy and paste into a temp file just the surrounding walls and post a file here for us to take a look at?

[dhurtubise]

Pretty sure it can't be materials because at least they would touch. Definitely looks to me like a phasing issue. Can you select the wall and post the image so we can see where the handle stands ?

[..shaner]

phase are all the same, when i copy it into a single file it seems to work fine, im not sure, i gave up for now - this is annoying

[mibzim]

Shane
Looks like its a multi story building? We have experienced this problem when walls above are trying to join into a wall that goes up several floors - in your case the lift shaft?

My guess would be that you have walls to the north and south (on the page) of the lift shaft's north wall, and walls to the east and west of the south wall on a higher level that are being persistent and trying to join. If you are working with other users on the project via worksets, i wouldn't be surprised if they are cleaning up their joins higher up the building and becoming equally frustrated when you go and mess that join up lower down the building! Its happened before!

If there aren't any walls higher up causing the problem, then its definitely the two walls marked P1 and P10 trying to join to your north-south walls. The south wall is being affected by the wall with door 119A in it as well as the wall on the opposite side adjacent to the shower.

Try pulling all the walls back so that you have four open corners and disallowing joins at BOTH ends of all FOUR walls. Then also disallow join on ALL the walls that are likely to try and join with your misbehaving walls (this is not so important though if you get the first four correct). Trim the corners up again and then use the join geometry tool to get them to look as if they join correctly. Then make sure you pin the walls...