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rganter.97143
2007-05-08, 01:36 AM
I need to create a fairly simple curved curtain wall system with one end of the wall being non-vertical. Cut profile does not work. I tried to cut the system at the desired angle with a void - unsuccessfully. Then I created a blended in-place solid mass in the shape I needed and applied the curtain system to the face of the mass. This worked except the curtain grid is now skewed towards the non-vertical end of the wall, in other words the vertical grid is not vertical. How do I get the grid lines to be vertical?

I tried a Curtain wall (as opposed to system) also but it doesn't work either. Am I doing something wrong? The split tool doesn't work either on any of these walls.

Any help appreciated,
Roland G.

Steve_Stafford
2007-05-08, 04:45 AM
Try massing again but try it with a solid extrusion in plan and a void to carve off the angle at the end. Then apply a curtain wall by face...see images.

rganter.97143
2007-05-08, 01:15 PM
Thanks, Steve, you saved the day.

Matt Brennan
2007-05-08, 03:46 PM
You could always use the "curtain system by lines" tool. We used this method on one of the projects we are currently working on that has a twist through out the building.

rganter.97143
2007-05-08, 05:06 PM
I haven't tried the curtain system by lines because I heard they are harder to edit. Not true?

Another question for the curtain system by face: In the attached image, the curved brick wall still slides behind the curtain system, but needs to be cut out instead. It would be nice if I could use the dependent mass (not visible in this view), or the curtain system itself to cut out the brick wall. Yet that is not possible because the mass is a solid, not a void, and I'm not sure how I could turn it into a void.

It just seems wrong to have to create a totally separate, independent mass to cut the wall when I already have two objects that could be used as the cutting mass.

Steve_Stafford
2007-05-09, 02:35 AM
It isn't a perfect solution...every actual design idea has its issues and Revit lends itself to some more simply than others. The images I posted are easy because there isn't anything "real" to make it hard :smile:. I've attached a mockup of one approach you could take, a very rough approximation of what I imagined from your pdf...

This example uses a regular wall drawn as an arc and full height. I used an in-place wall void to carve off the angle the the curtain wall needs to cover. I used the edge that is left to define a mass with a solid extrusion in plane and a void in elevation to carve off the angle. I then swept an inplace "wall" along the edges of the mass to represent an outermost mullion/filler. I assigned it to a wall subcategory to control the lineweight in section. Last I placed curtain walls by face and then at the top I assigned some solid panels to mask the roof/structure behind it.

I've attached the project file for your perusal, its RA2008.

Oh, I don't think "by lines" will give you what you are after because the lines need to have a different length to "lean" the end and this tends to result in the same problem you were having with the blend mass.