Notstromo 52 - Is there a way to set a key to return the speed-pad to normal key-set?

[robert.1.hall72202]

Is there a way to set a key to return the speedpad to normal keyset?

All I see are red, green, and blue.

[Mlabell]

First off welcome to the nostromo club. Hope that your IT dept finally listened to you on where to get it from instead if Dell. As for the question at hand there is not a method of which I am aware of to go directly to the base keyset from a colored keyset. You just have to hit the cycle keyset button. But if anyone knew of a better way it would be madcadder...

[CADDmanVA]

Congrats on the N52 Robert!

Instead of using mode cycling on my N52. I have the D-Pad set up to do temporary toggling of the modes. If I press up, I get the red mode, back is green, etc. I tried using the wheel for cycling, but it just didn't fit my wants.

By the way, are you in AutoCAD 2008 yet? I seem to have problems with my N52 not firing the macro keys properly from time to time. For example, I'll hit the key for RECTANG, and I get a scan cancelled by CTRL+C error. :banghead:

[Mlabell]

My only problem with 08 and the n52 so far is once and awhile the n52 seems to outpace what the command line can receive as an entry. But this also happens when I key in commands as well sometimes. I do not know if there is some delay setting in ACAD with the command line which I am unaware of that would effect my key in speed. I have also tried switching out the keyboard 3 different times, and that definitely is not the problem because it only happens in ACAD.

[robert.1.hall72202]

Congrats on the N52 Robert!

Instead of using mode cycling on my N52. I have the D-Pad set up to do temporary toggling of the modes. If I press up, I get the red mode, back is green, etc. I tried using the wheel for cycling, but it just didn't fit my wants.

By the way, are you in AutoCAD 2008 yet? I seem to have problems with my N52 not firing the macro keys properly from time to time. For example, I'll hit the key for RECTANG, and I get a scan cancelled by CTRL+C error. :banghead:


I was going to use the d-pad for line, circe, rectangle, etc.
I could set it to toggle states.

I want to use the wheel for zoom/window, regen, and click for zoom extents.
For some reason I cannot program the forward and backward motions.
Is there some special trick I need?

[CADDmanVA]

I was going to use the d-pad for line, circe, rectangle, etc.
I could set it to toggle states.

I want to use the wheel for zoom/window, regen, and click for zoom extents.
For some reason I cannot program the forward and backward motions.
Is there some special trick I need?Programming the wheel is just like any other key on the pad from my experience. From what you've said, I believe you're programming text strings into each key. For my set up, I assigned macros (CTRL+Q, etc) to all my commands. AutoCAD was hanging up the way Marklabel said above using text strings for me too. Why not try a few macro keys and see what your results are?

[robert.1.hall72202]

Understood.

Some how I cannot even get the scroll wheel to
execute a single key. It should do that.

All it does is scroll for zoom in/zoom out.

[CADDmanVA]

Understood.

Some how I cannot even get the scroll wheel to
execute a single key. It should do that.

All it does is scroll for zoom in/zoom out.:? Could you zip or rar your profile and post it? I'd like to see why it's acting like that. I can assign single key commands to the wheel, but I tend to roll it more than one click.

[robert.1.hall72202]

I clicked save after opening the editor and the blank settings were saved over the top of
my existing setup. I warn anyone who is using the editor to be careful.
I will post my seetings after I have them recreated.

[CADDmanVA]

I clicked save after opening the editor and the blank settings were saved over the top of
my existing setup. I warn anyone who is using the editor to be careful.
I will post my seetings after I have them recreated.Now you are officially a N52 user! :beer: I can't think of anyone (myself included) who hasn't done that at least once.

[robert.1.hall72202]

The zoom/window function set to the dpad works.
The scroll wheel does not. Maybe a conflict with
an AutoCad setting?

[CADDmanVA]

Alright! Here's a few things that may fix what ails ya...



In the shift states (R, G & B), set your D-Pad keys to "use normal". This can help reduce some of the silly conflict errors. You have the shift states set as toggles, so it should return to normal (no lights) after you release the key.
The wheel...I have mine set (see attached) to "mouse wheel". To change your's back to that, it's a bit ubiquitous. Select the key, then click "default" to change it to mouse wheel functions. Also, check your mouse settings in Windows to see if anything funny is affecting the wheel.

I hope this helps you out some.

[madcadder]

Sorry all for the MIA.
I've had a couple days worth of Mondays now.

On the original question...

Is there a way to set a key to return the speedpad to normal keyset?

All I see are red, green, and blue.
You can set it two ways. You can set it to "Momentary" and it will keep that colors subset active for as long as you are holding down the button. Not much use.
The other way it toggles. Press the d-pad in that direction and you get GREEN, press again and you are back to base, green, base, etc. I only use "cycle shift", as to not eat up multiple buttons to change subsets.


My only problem with 08 and the n52 so far is once and awhile the n52 seems to outpace what the command line can receive as an entry. But this also happens when I key in commands as well sometimes. I do not know if there is some delay setting in ACAD with the command line which I am unaware of that would effect my key in speed. I have also tried switching out the keyboard 3 different times, and that definitely is not the problem because it only happens in ACAD.
Mine is actually faster in 08 than in 07... Humm.


Now you are officially a N52 user! :beer: I can't think of anyone (myself included) who hasn't done that at least once.
NO KIDDING! You ain't official until you lost your profile on "day two" by over-writing it to almost blank.


The zoom/window function set to the dpad works.
The scroll wheel does not. Maybe a conflict with
an AutoCad setting?
I'll take a peek too tonight from home. Hopefully should have at leat a work-around by tomorrow.

[robert.1.hall72202]

NO KIDDING! You ain't official until you lost your profile on "day two" by over-writing it to almost blank.


Glad to know that I am not the only "goofball" on earth.

I was hoping I could set the scroll forward/backward to a command.
I have a scrolling mouse and a scrolling keyboard. I do not have
a need for a third scroll wheel. Make it run 3 commands!

Zoom Window, Regen, and zoom extents

I need a :beer:

[CADDmanVA]

Glad to know that I am not the only "goofball" on earth.

I was hoping I could set the scroll forward/backward to a command.
I have a scrolling mouse and a scrolling keyboard. I do not have
a need for a third scroll wheel. Make it run 3 commands!

Zoom Window, Regen, and zoom extents

I need a :beer:Oh! Captain Obvious here...I didn't know you were trying to assign commands to the wheel, just zoom. :Oops: I'll look at your file again tomorrow to see if I can figure it out. Sorry about that one...have one on me :beer:

[robert.1.hall72202]

Next round on me :beer: :beer: :beer:

I forgot to mention that I think the speedpad is awesome!

I can have the left side of the keyboard times 4.

[madcadder]

One big add I found by using the scroll wheel as a scroll wheel is that I can push down the wheel on the N52 and slide the mouse a lot easier than the old click-hold-slide on one object.

By the way the other N52 profiles worked as they should for me.

[robert.1.hall72202]

One big add I found by using the scroll wheel as a scroll wheel is that I can push down the wheel on the N52 and slide the mouse a lot easier than the old click-hold-slide on one object.

By the way the other N52 profiles worked as they should for me.

Sounds a bit like walking and chewing gum at the same time. *jokingly*

I have almost given up on assigning a command to the scroll wheel.
I sent a support request to belkin and the response was "Make sure
the profile is saved".

I have had some really bad support responses, however, this response
is the worst ever.

[madcadder]

Sounds a bit like walking and chewing gum at the same time. *jokingly*

more like rubbing stomach while eating a burrito.


I have almost given up on assigning a command to the scroll wheel.
I sent a support request to belkin and the response was "Make sure
the profile is saved".

I have had some really bad support responses, however, this response
is the worst ever.

I agree.
I sent in one to find out what the command line switch was to launch the editor with a specific *.n52 profile already loaded. Yes, I know you can do that from the N52 software, but I was wanting to create a LISP to use in acad.

After 20 minutes on hold, explaining my issue, her not understanding, and placing my back on hold for 17 minutes (while she went to break (???) (I love speaker phones)) I had to re-explain the issue, go back on hold while she asks the supervisor, receive a basic reply to look a the FAQ on this web-link, and demand to speak with the supervisor.

Upon re-explaining for the third time I get the "pass-the-buck" answer of "I will sent this in email to the software engineers and I or one of them will get back to you with an answer".


That was 6+ weeks ago.

[robert.1.hall72202]

Latest response was to make sure the profile is setup in automatic mode.
And as you guessed.............IT DOES NADA!

more :beer: :beer:

I give up.

Belkin support gets 0 stars out of 5. :roll:

[CADDmanVA]

Has anyone had a run with the Saitek version of the Speedpad? From the specs, it seems comparable, but I don't know how the driver works.