Footing cleanup on curved walls

[brethomp]

See attached. Is this a bug? Is there any way to get these foundation objects to clean up normally on a curved wall like this? I tried the Edit wall joins tool with no luck. An in place void family will work, but shouldn't this clean up on it's own, like the host wall does?

[ws]

I'm no expert, but I have played about with the model and I can't see any way of trimming the foundations. It's an interesting problem though, if anyone does have a method.

Using voids is as good a way as any I would think - I've done something similar where a stone wall tapers in plan.

(this sort of thing - irregular shapes - is a doddle in some packages like Allplan where you just use the stretch tool to drag the vertices any way you want... but Revit is a young application and will get there one day - in the meantime workarounds are OK I'd say ;-))

[Architeria]

I'm not seeing a curve in the thumbnail; is it curved in plan?

William, I'm not entirely ignorant of the King's English but I confess I'm not familiar with the term doddle. I like the sound of it but wondered if you might clarify its meaning?

Thx
Philip

[brethomp]

Yep, both walls are curved in plan.

[lev.lipkin]

I got this case reproduced and development will investigate. Thanks for pointing the issue.

[ws]

I'm not seeing a curve in the thumbnail; is it curved in plan?

William, I'm not entirely ignorant of the King's English but I confess I'm not familiar with the term doddle. I like the sound of it but wondered if you might clarify its meaning?

Thx
Philip


:)
ah, there's many a slip 'twixt transatlantic idioms...

'it's a doddle' means it's easy - slightly whimsical but quite usable in polite company... builders have more er, robust expressions

Perhaps in exchange you can tell me what some of the terms in Revit mean? ;-)

casework? (is it wall linings?)
entourage? (I'm guessing landscape?)

cheers,

[VinceFerrero]

Casework is the same as what some would call "cabinetwork" or "joinery"...you know, the kitchen cupboards and bench's, the custom credenza's, etc. The items custom manufactured by (generally) carpenters.

In Revit Entourage refers to the people (as props) in a setting.

[ws]

thanks Vincent.

We don't have carpenters in the UK any more - they're all 'joiners' it seems.;)

You've got me with 'credenzas' though... what are they?

(I've searched online for US/other country equivalents but just as with England/Scotland here in the UK, I've not come across a comparative list of equivalent building terms)

[VinceFerrero]

From Wiktionary;

[edit (http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=credenza&action=edit&section=2)] Noun

Singular
credenza

Plural
credenzas (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/credenzas)


credenza (plural credenzas (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/credenzas))


A sideboard (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sideboard) or buffet (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/buffet).
In office furniture, a horizontal filing cabinet (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/filing_cabinet), typically placed behind a desk (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/desk).

[ws]

well, I'd never have guessed that one :)

Many thanks.

I've looked at a few online US lists of building terms for home owners and suchlike and 98% of building terms are the same or very close to what we use.

[dhurtubise]

I still use a wall to create footing. They give me a lot more flexibility then the footing tool itself. Joint is one of those things that i dont have to deal with.

[Lashers]

I guess one way around it would be to stop the footings short of the corner and fill in the corner with an extruded mass, using concrete as the material.

until the brains sort out a fix . . .

Anyone know what the equivalent would be in the US for a "sky hook"? ;)

[Andre Baros]

I'm curious why people use the footings tool vs. using walls. We usually show building sections at "course" and wall sections at "fine" so footings are always a problem as footings don't adjust. Footings also have problems cleaning up, can't be extended past the end of a wall, and aren't really any easier to place than using the pick tool with a footing "wall" and picking your foundation walls.

[Architeria]

'it's a doddle' means it's easy - slightly whimsical but quite usable in polite company... builders have more er, robust expressions


Thanks for that. Yes, builders here have much more expressive vocabularies as well.

And thanks Vince for helping me out although generally I would refer to those who make cabinets, etc. and bring them onto the job for installation, as cabinetmakers. Door and window casings however are generally done on the job by the finish carpenters. Pre-fab cabinets are commonly hung by "the kitchen guy".

There are, of course, lots of regional variations. Hope that helps.

Philip