Re; Rotating option when creating drafting fill pattern

[kurk]

Reviving this thread, http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=25817&highlight=rotate+drafting+fill+pattern (that was in the wishlist forum?) particularly regarding wood grain patterns on multiple dressed timber detail components inserted into a detail. I want to be able to rotate these patterns so they look better graphically rather than looking like they were all cut from the same piece of timber (with the hatch grain lining up between components).

I did a search but couldnt find any relevant threads other than this one which got no response.

Has anyone got an answer?

[tjhernacki]

The Revit 2008 has an edit feature and will allow you to modify your hatch patterns.

[kurk]

Aaaah do you mean the 'Fill Pattern Host Orientation' feature that appears to have been implemented in release 9? I have managed to find this in the help file now thanks to your response and it does appear to be exactly what I am after. Unfortunately this doesnt appear to be working the way it is explained in the help file.... I have tried editing the fill pattern to 'align with element' or 'keep readable' but when I rotate my filled region in my project the pattern remains orientated to the view...

Is there a bug here or am I a 'complete fool' as Douglas Adams refers to on my signature?? :Oops:

[kurk]

Update;
I managed to solve my wood grain (filled region) problem by using a model pattern instead of drafting pattern which allows me to rotate/orientate the pattern differently for each piece of timber (duh - knew it would be simple and I have used this method for tiles/paving etc for ages!). I guess I just didn't think of the grain as being a model element and used a drafting pattern instead by mistake and wondered why I couldn't get it to be more adaptable.

I have also deducted that the 'fill pattern host orientation' indicated in the help file appears to only refer to fill patterns of actual model (host) elements that are cut and not to filled regions. Fill patterns are edited and stored in one central location but appear to be used at a more intelligent level for host elements (ie. A filled region is not a host as such therefore the pattern will not orientate to it).

Its all a lot clearer to me now, funny how things dont make sense when you are trying so hard but then come to you when you get a chance to play around under less pressure on another day.

Hope this helps any other newbies with similar probs.

[tkrich00]

It is now 2009 and it appears to still does not work, I cannot orientate fill pattern for drating object family to "Align with Element" while the Revit Help says it can for drafting fill patterns simple and custom. I guess I will have to wait for 2010 or maybe 2011.

[cadman6735]

try 2011, it still does not work in 2010

[tanweer.dossa]

I am currently working in Revit MEP 2009, and I have some lights that need a crosshatch when viewd in plan. In the lighting family I have given the extrusion a surface pattern of a crosshatch. However when loaded into my project and used in a situation where the light is not vertical or horizontal, the fill does not rotate with the object. I have tried using the "orientation in host layers" set to "align with element" and "keep readable" but it makes not difference in appearance. From what I have read in this forum this seems to be a glitch in revit.

Does anybody have a work-around for this kind of situation? or am I stuck with the fill pattern not rotating with the object.

[thredge]

Does anyone know a way around the drafting fill pattern rotation issue? This seems rediculous that we cannot rotate hatch patterns to align with the models. I have tried to creat more hatch patterns that aren't intended to be direction oriented, but in some cases like wood or linear hatches it really should rotate with the element. A lot of the time since we are doing these hatches for details Revit also won't let me make them model hatches, giving the reason that the hatch is to dense, which makes sense if I was going to try to use it in a 1/8" scale wall hatch, but I'm not. Attached is a project with a few of those fill patterns that we have this issue with. The small dash lines especially. As you can see on the plywood one, we actually used lines as part of the hatch to keep them parallel.

The best I can think to do is to edit the hatch and make it another diagonal hatch so orientation means less unless we start running it at an angle.

[Errolowl]

This seems rediculous that we cannot rotate hatch patterns to align with the models.....A lot of the time since we are doing these hatches for details Revit also won't let me make them model hatches, giving the reason that the hatch is to dense, which makes sense if I was going to try to use it in a 1/8" scale wall hatch, but I'm not.

We have the same problem and its creating a lot of headaches around here. The redlines on every project come back with the hatch patterns circled, and I'm tired of the " Revit doesn't allow it" excuse I'm forced to give. Is there any help out there for this? How is everyone else dealing with their plywood hatch in a detail component?

[rganter.97143]

Has this still not been resolved? Clearly, the drafting pattern creation dialog box has an "Align with Element" button, but it seems to have no effect whatsoever. I will file a request.

[jay388019]

The Date is now August 2013

This problem is still present in Revit. I'm using the new Revit LT
Drafting pattern (fill region) in my detail component still orients to view and not to the object, no matter what setting I place on it.
Autodesk, get your act together!
Stop with the add on functionality (that I'm not allowed to use in LT) and fix the core program please!

[ArchTech247]

The plywood detail component fix was easy. Change plywood drafting pattern to a model pattern, then add a dimensional parameter with a formula "Thickness/2" from the center (front/back) reference plane to the centerline of the model pattern so regardless of angle or thickness it will always appear correctly. I'm using Revit 2014 btw.