Far Clip Halftone Backgrounds in Elevation Views

[antonio2012]

Hello:

Could someone please explain the steps to produce an elevation view were elements beyond the "Far Clip" edge (on Plan view) are shown with Halftone? It seems to me that there is a procedure using Phase and Phase Filters that can give good results, but it is hard for a non-expert like me to figure this out. I would appreciate a step by step explanation, as much as possible. If there is a better and faster way to accomplish the same thing by all means let me know, but so far from all I have read in the forum this seems to be the only way to accomplish this. I am using Revit 8.1

Thanks.

[ejburrell67787]

If it is beyond the far clip it won't show at all. The work around I know of is to duplicate the elevation and set the graphic overrides so everything is halftone. Place the halftone elevation on the sheet first (set its viewport to have no title or scale or line etc) then place the full tone elevation on top of it. They can be aligned perfectly and so will appear as a single elevation when printed.

...actually thinking about it I didn't use the half tone option but rather selected all elements in the graphics overrides and set their colour to a mid grey. Can't remember why though...

[antonio2012]

Thanks for your feedback, but what about if instead of printing I want to create a JPG image? It seems to me that what you are describing would work only if I print twice on the same sheet of paper, is that correct?

[Justin Marchiel]

no what you do is overlay the 2 viewports on top of each other on the sheet. you dont have to feed the sheet thru the printer twice.

This "workaround" has helped me do a lot of graphic drawings that are not capable of doing in 1 single view.

Justin

[antonio2012]

Hello Justin, thank you very much! Yes, it works. One more question though, how do I get rid of the title and scale call out for the background?
Thanks again.

[Alex Page]

Select the view boundary and up in the left hand corner you can change the 'viewport' type to one which doesnt have a title

[antonio2012]

Thanks again. I am noticing that the halftone background shows perfect on the screen, but when I print either on paper or a PDF file the halftone background lines that should be hidden behind the foreground lines still show as halftone lines creating confusion. How do I go about correcting for that?

Thanks.

[nandini]

hi,
this may be helpful...

[ejburrell67787]

Thanks again. I am noticing that the halftone background shows perfect on the screen, but when I print either on paper or a PDF file the halftone background lines that should be hidden behind the foreground lines still show as halftone lines creating confusion. How do I go about correcting for that?

Thanks.See my first post above.... make sure the full tone view is placed second on the sheet and aligned (green lines for vertical and horizontal) perfectly... you might want to consider using graphic overrides and not halftones as I noted also.

[bowlingbrad]

You can also use the new graphic overrides by element. Select the items you want, right click, then select "Override Graphics in View" then select By Element... change them to whatever tone/color/lineweight you want. If you desire varying depths, then apply this technique to different groups of objects in the view.

[ford347]

You can also use the new graphic overrides by element. Select the items you want, right click, then select "Override Graphics in View" then select By Element... change them to whatever tone/color/lineweight you want. If you desire varying depths, then apply this technique to different groups of objects in the view.
This is what I have been doing. Works pretty well. The only elements that become a problem with this method is roofs, since most of the time you have quite a large area of the roof that is one single object, so if you halftone that, you would be doing the same for the parts you don't want halftone. You could create seperate roofs to accomodate this, but that would be some extra work.

Josh

[nnguyen]

hi,
this may be helpful...

Nice workaround. But would there be a problem with wall joins? I am assuming that you set the glass with different transparencies to see the different shades.

[ejburrell67787]

INice trick. But would there be a problem with wall joins? I am assuming that you set the glass with different transparencies to see the different shades.no need, each successive layer of glass adds another level of opacity.