Match Line - View reference

[tkrich00]

Has anyone had trouble with the "view reference" tag part of the Matchline. I have followed the instructions from Revit Help and I cannot get the tag to display the sheet number and Name - it on says "Ref". Does anyone have any suggestions.

[dhurtubise]

Did you put them on a sheet ?
Are you using the OOTB tag ?

[tkrich00]

The 2 dependant views are on a sheet - the overall is not (i have tried putting this on a sheet and it still does not work. I am using the view reference under the match line - not sure what the OOTB tag is?

[dhurtubise]

OOTB means Out Of The Box

[tkrich00]

then yes the view reference is from out of the box...

[jcoe]

Did you make sure the view reference tag was pointing to the correct view?

[tkrich00]

yes - it always says ref no matter which view I use

[srinivas.vemuri]

Make sure you loaded the View Reference Tag in your project. And update the View Referecnce Tag in its Element properties. See Attached image for further clarification.

Hope this helps,

[tkrich00]

Thank you so much - I thought I loaded the tag - the catagory does not show up on loaded tags. I guess I need to check other locations ie the family list and the type.

[Brockway]

OK. According to help and my many trials, one can not place a view reference in a plan that references a plan which IS NOT dependent. Correct?
Typically, we have a view pulled to a sheet which shows the entire plan (let's say 1/16" scale or smaller) then plans broken up across multiple sheets (let's say 1/8" scale or larger). Therefore the enlarged broken plans can not be dependent of the overall plans. Correct? However, I would still like to reference the plans from the overall plan. Do I need to make callouts to make this happen? In an attempt to do that, I notice that it locks me down to "Floor Plan." This means that I MUST have the same Callout Head for all. Boooooo! You can also not remove the leader and region easily. double boooooo!

*Sigh* Why can't we just add the "reference other view" checkbox like we have in every other view callout/ reference?

[Brockway]

OK, so let's try this, then.

Is it possible to make a view which is one scale: 1/16" = 1'-0" and dependent views that are at different scales: 1/8" = 1'-0"? I can't seem to make that work.

[Scott Womack]

OK, so let's try this, then.

Is it possible to make a view which is one scale: 1/16" = 1'-0" and dependent views that are at different scales: 1/8" = 1'-0"? I can't seem to make that work.

No that is not possible. The fact that the views are "defendant" upon another view by definition means that all of the items in the V/G and Properties of the dependent views cannot differ from the view they were created from, otherwise they would not be "dependent" views. The only differences permitted, is the ability to select items and "Hide elements in this view". The other quirk is callouts/detail references. IF you create these in a dependent view they will not appear in the "parent" view the dependents are created from. If you create them in the Parent view, they will also be visible in any dependent view they would be visible within the crop boundary of.

[Michael Coviello]

Is it possible for the view reference tag to become a titleblock label?
I am placing one dependant view on its own sheet and would like the view reference tag information to show in the titleblock.:?:

[Brockway]

Let me get this straight: you want to have the view/views that are NOT pulled to the sheet displayed in the titleblock. Is that right?

I don't know how you'd accomplish that in a automatic/parametric way. A sheet couldn't know what is NOT on it. However, the view could know where it's related views are. You could place a view reference in the view in a position where it appears to be in the titleblock when the view is placed on the sheet. It would look like what you're trying to accomplish but wouldn't really be.

[Michael Coviello]

Hi,
I think so. Let me re-state what i'm trying to accomplish.
Your workaround is currently where I am now. I was hoping there was a way.

The views are:

Level 1
-------Dependant of Level 1

Sheets:

Level 1 on sheet A101

Dependant of Level 1 on sheet SK-A

I want the titleblock of SK-A to indicate A101

This is the referring view of the dependant view.

Thanks.

[Scott Womack]

The views are:
Level 1
-------Dependant of Level 1

Sheets:
Level 1 on sheet A101
Dependant of Level 1 on sheet SK-A
I want the titleblock of SK-A to indicate A101
This is the referring view of the Dependant view

I believe to get the SK-A sheet to reference back to A101 you would have had to create the view from a Callout, not as a Dependant view. The view reference for a matchline has not been implemented to function in the manner you want it to. I understand wanting to use a Dependant view so that annotation does not have to be copied.

[Michael Coviello]

I was hoping it could be done w/shared parameters somehow.

[jcoe]

You could still accomplish this using a shared parameter, but it would be part of your title block family and not the view reference. This would involve some manual input, but it might accomplish your task.

Open your ttitle block family and create a shared paramter ("Referencing Sheet" or some sort). Using the lable tool, add a label to the title block and apply the shared parameter to it.>Load the family into the project>crate a project parameter using the shared parameter (Setting>project parameter>and follow the dialogs). When all said and done, you should be able to manually change the "Referencing Sheet" value right on your title block.

Like I say, it is not automatic and takes a little coordination, but it should give you the results.
LOL.