Picking stacked walls for floors and roofs

[patricks]

I know I know, I've been one all along to say never to use stacked walls. However I have a project where it seems to make sense, as the stacked wall is used around the entire building, all heights stay the same around the building, etc. For the moment everything appears to be behaving as far as wall joins in plan go, etc.

However when I try to pick a stacked wall to create floor or roof sketch lines, the sketch line just automatically goes to the centerline of the widest part of the wall, no matter if Extend to Core is checked or unchecked. This is going to consume alot of time if I have to zoom in and manually pick the exterior face of stud and manually lock it for every single line around the building. It's even worse if I want to specify an overhang distance from a roof, because the value listed in the offset box is not measuring from anything tangible.

Anyone know if this is a bug?

[TheRevitGeek]

I don't want to seem simplistic but are you using the TAB key to select the different walls on the stacked wall. I have found that it will snap to the base wall (or most the time anyway) when dealing with stacked walls but witha few strokes of the TAB key it will get to where I want.

[twiceroadsfool]

Im using a bunch of stacked walls on a project currently, and ive been using them to define floor and roof sketches without an issue. Ive even used the Overhang tool for the roof eaves.

Im sure ive had to tab to the ins and outs of the walls, occasionally, but nothing else out of the ordinary came up.

As an aside, i cant believe what a bad rap Stacked Walls get. Ive got different walls heights everywhere, with different heights for the lower portion of wall as well (so i have a bunch of different stacked wall types). They work great. The ONLY time they **** me off is when i try to attach their bases to roofs, and then i have to use Break Apart. other than thta, i adore them...

[dbaldacchino]

When you place an opening in a stacked wall, rooms won't flow through the opening, so be careful if that's something you'll encounter.

[Calvn_Swing]

As an aside, i cant believe what a bad rap Stacked Walls get. Ive got different walls heights everywhere, with different heights for the lower portion of wall as well (so i have a bunch of different stacked wall types). They work great. The ONLY time they **** me off is when i try to attach their bases to roofs, and then i have to use Break Apart. other than thta, i adore them...

Give it time, give it time...

I had the same reaction at first on our first (and second) projects using them. (The second started a week after the first.) One of them is in CA, and one is being re-designed as we speak, and I can tell you that I will ONLY use them if there is simple no other way to get them modeled... I wish Autodesk would fix them, or pull them from Revit entirely and instead give us another tool to get vertical complexity built into walls.

Hopefully, you'll have better luck than we did...

[patricks]

Yeah, I guess I forgot to try the Tab key. I'm just not used to having to hit Tab to select the core face when I have the Extend To Core box checked at the top, or to get to the outside face of wall when the box is unchecked. I had never seen a floor or roof sketch line default to the centerline of wall no matter if the Extend to Core box is checked or unchecked before.

Shows you how much I've used stacked walls. :p

And so far they're still behaving. So my faith in stacked walls has increased, only just a little bit.

It was a ROYAL pain getting them all changed, though, as I had to change each exterior wall individually and then deal with the errors generated each and every time a wall was changed. I tried changing them all at once and it generated over 70+ errors! :shock: