Pagesetups from template file not updating in SSM

[cadman_meg]

So I have added some additional info to include more page setups in my template file. My SSM points to this template, yet when I go to publish, I do not see the additional page setups in my 'page setup overrides'. Why is this? How do I fix this or work around this? Thanks much.

[Chris.N]

So I have added some additional info to include more page setups in my template file. My SSM points to this template, yet when I go to publish, I do not see the additional page setups in my 'page setup overrides'. Why is this? How do I fix this or work around this? Thanks much.
i'm going to start with a silly question first. did you happen to not save the template file before going back?

otherwise, i notice that the SSM does not recognize new things unless you close the set and re-open the SSM. this happens most often when i add modelspace files (bottom tab)

[cadman_meg]

Yes, I did save it. I did try the trick to shut down my dst file and even to the point of shutting down the program as well as rebooting the computer. Even if I create a new sheet within my sheet set, it does not show new items such as page setups. Is imparative that this info show. Anyone else encounter this? Am sure there would have to be for if one is updating a template and project have been started, then at the least, new page setups would need to show. Anyone have any ideas, suggestions, etc...? Thanks much.

[cadman_meg]

I will say however that I can see the new pagesetups if I am in a dwg and then go to import a page setup from that dwt file, just not able to see it from SSM when trying to publish. Wow...just tested this theory as well. If I create a new sheet set using that dwt file as my template, I still do not see the new page setups I have created. Wow....what is going on here? There has to be something I am missing.

[Chris.N]

I will say however that I can see the new pagesetups if I am in a dwg and then go to import a page setup from that dwt file, just not able to see it from SSM when trying to publish. Wow...just tested this theory as well. If I create a new sheet set using that dwt file as my template, I still do not see the new page setups I have created. Wow....what is going on here? There has to be something I am missing.
verify that the path in your SSM properties pointing to the template file specifically for page setup over-rides are correct. (found in the top section of propties dialog box.)

hopefully you're not assuming that the 'Options' file path isn't directing this....

[cadman_meg]

Done that as well. This is why this is bothering me so much as I have exhausted everything I can think of. Granite, I am not yet a master of SSM, but I tend to get the hang of things fairly quickly. Any other suggestions or whatnot?

[Chris.N]

Done that as well. This is why this is bothering me so much as I have exhausted everything I can think of. Granite, I am not yet a master of SSM, but I tend to get the hang of things fairly quickly. Any other suggestions or whatnot?
ok, what version are you running? i've heard that some SSM errors occur when the page setups are the same as the template for callouts and such when using 2008...

[cadman_meg]

Am using LDD 2007. I am also working with my local reseller, but right now, they are lost as well. Am trying something else to see if maybe somehow my .dwt and/or muy .dst file(s) got corrupted.

BTW, can be hard to take you seriuosly with that avatar.... ;)

[Opie]

Page setups in the Page Setup Override File are not automatically included within the drawings assigned to the sheet set. These page setups can be accessed by using the Page Setup Override menu item found within the sheet set manager.

Using one of these overrides will publish your Sheet Set without the need to opening the Publish dialog box.

[Chris.N]

well, this is all i know how to explain on how i got my own system set up. if these shots don't help, i'm all out of ideas....

[Opie]

well, this is all i know how to explain on how i got my own system set up. if these shots don't help, i'm all out of ideas....
That is correct, AFAIK. But the page setups are not automatically imported into the sheets drawings. That is all that I'm saying.

[Chris.N]

That is correct, AFAIK. But the page setups are not automatically imported into the sheets drawings. That is all that I'm saying.
~light bulb~

the setup i documented is for r-click publishing w/out opening up a dialog box and basically 'imports' the settings to the publish job and over-rides the residing setups.

if you want the same setups IN the existing SSM files the same as your source file, you're going to have to import them manually. and then import them into your SSM sheet template so all new sheets have what you're using to print.

[cadman_meg]

Crhis and Opie,

I am not trying to import the page setups, but rather go through the publishing route and using the page setup over rides as shown in Chris's thumbnails.

Again, the root of my problem is this. I have created a .dwt file which contains various info and specific to this problem, some page setups. My initial page setups show up fine, but any additional page setups I add to that .dwt file does not reflect when going through the same publishing route, only the ones I setup initially.

Therefore, I have tried a variety of things to fix or figure this out. I have even gone as far as recreating my .dwt file and then seeing if that works. This is an issue if I am adding a sheet to a current sheet set or even creating an entirely new sheet set wit ha new .dst file.

I am using LDT 2007 and am wondering if this problem could be associated with LDT 2007? Have been on the phone with my support folks at the local reseller, but the one I spoke to on Friday only had vanilla AutoCAD and not LDT. He did say that this same issue didn't reflect on his machine and thought maybe it was something associated with LDT.

This leads me to wonder if anyone else out there with LDT 2007 is having the same issue?

Anyone else have any further ideas or suggestions to help remedy this annoying problem?

Thanks much.

[Chris.N]

Question: are all your page setups for LAYOUTS? make sure your new ones you're looking for aren't for modelspace printing... those won't show up in the list.

[Opie]

Crhis and Opie,

I am not trying to import the page setups, but rather go through the publishing route and using the page setup over rides as shown in Chris's thumbnails.

Again, the root of my problem is this. I have created a .dwt file which contains various info and specific to this problem, some page setups. My initial page setups show up fine, but any additional page setups I add to that .dwt file does not reflect when going through the same publishing route, only the ones I setup initially.

Therefore, I have tried a variety of things to fix or figure this out. I have even gone as far as recreating my .dwt file and then seeing if that works. This is an issue if I am adding a sheet to a current sheet set or even creating an entirely new sheet set wit ha new .dst file.

I am using LDT 2007 and am wondering if this problem could be associated with LDT 2007? Have been on the phone with my support folks at the local reseller, but the one I spoke to on Friday only had vanilla AutoCAD and not LDT. He did say that this same issue didn't reflect on his machine and thought maybe it was something associated with LDT.

This leads me to wonder if anyone else out there with LDT 2007 is having the same issue?

Anyone else have any further ideas or suggestions to help remedy this annoying problem?

Thanks much.
Are you linking to the correct dwt file that you are adding new page setups in?

[cadman_meg]

WOW! After racking my head so much trying to figure this out, it finally dawned on me. After reading about whether these were set in model space, which I was pretty sure they weren't, I decided to check anyhow. After discovering that they were, I had realized that my plot area was not set to 'Layout', but rather they were set to window. This was for some 11X17 prints of full size sheets. While it makes it a pain in the but as you can not choose the option of 'scale to fit' if you select a smaller paper size, I think I got it figured out.

Thanks so much for all the help! But I am sure that there will be more. I mean, this is software after all....

[guitarchitect7]

WOW! After racking my head so much trying to figure this out, it finally dawned on me. After reading about whether these were set in model space, which I was pretty sure they weren't, I decided to check anyhow. After discovering that they were, I had realized that my plot area was not set to 'Layout', but rather they were set to window. This was for some 11X17 prints of full size sheets. While it makes it a pain in the but as you can not choose the option of 'scale to fit' if you select a smaller paper size, I think I got it figured out.

Thanks so much for all the help! But I am sure that there will be more. I mean, this is software after all....

This is exactly my isse right now and something I have been trying to get some help on. You can only choose "Layout" for these overrides otherwise they don't show up. But you can't scale to fit, so how do you do a reduced set. Right now I'm just importing form the Override tempalte file through the Publish dialog box.

[Chris.N]

so, did we solve your problem starting HERE (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?p=800990#post800990)?

[guitarchitect7]

No. I ended up just playing with the scale settings. I found that 1:2.3 was a good reduction ratio for Arch D, and 1:1.6 was a good reduction ratio for Arch C. This is the only way I could choose layout which works with SSM and reduced my drawings to be able to choose with SSM Plot overrides.

I appreciate the effort, but until SSM can read Window or Extents to allow you to "Fit to page", what I did above seems to be the only way around it.

[Chris.N]

No. I ended up just playing with the scale settings. I found that 1:2.3 was a good reduction ratio for Arch D, and 1:1.6 was a good reduction ratio for Arch C. This is the only way I could choose layout which works with SSM and reduced my drawings to be able to choose with SSM Plot overrides.

I appreciate the effort, but until SSM can read Window or Extents to allow you to "Fit to page", what I did above seems to be the only way around it.
sorry to discover it's not working for you the way you want, but i have to say... it's working perfectly for me and our whole office by using "extents" and "fit to page" and "scale lineweights" settings for our 11x17 printer setup.

[guitarchitect7]

sorry to discover it's not working for you the way you want, but i have to say... it's working perfectly for me and our whole office by using "extents" and "fit to page" and "scale lineweights" settings for our 11x17 printer setup.
Trying to make me jelouse are you. Well its working!

Actually after talking it over with a few of our designers, we are going to do a reduced set differently. I think it will come together as we want, but not in same, easy was as you.

I do appreciate the feedback!

[Chris.N]

Trying to make me jelouse are you. Well its working!

Actually after talking it over with a few of our designers, we are going to do a reduced set differently. I think it will come together as we want, but not in same, easy was as you.

I do appreciate the feedback! i thought you were sounding a little green... :mrgreen:

if you want me to post screen shots of my printer setup for our reduced sets in the SSM template for the overrides, i'll be more than happy, just let me know!