Wire Glass

[jcoe]

Can anyone suggest how I might be able to create wire glass. I tried using model lines but could not get them located at the center of glazing.

I also tried to use sweeps and estrusions, but I kept getting a message that the geometry was too thin.

Any suggestions?

[Roger Evans]

Why do you need to show this level of detail?

You could try making a glass sandwich with mesh middle but ... I would just specify it normally

Cheers

Roger

[sfaust]

I would just create a copy of the glass material and give it a crosshatch surface pattern. If you need it rendered then the accurender material could be modified to show that as well...

[bclarch]

There was a recent thread on chain link fences that might offer a solution. Search for that and see if it helps.

[Alex Page]

I would just create a copy of the glass material and give it a crosshatch surface pattern. If you need it rendered then the accurender material could be modified to show that as well...

This doesnt work for me....when I have transparent materials the surface patterns dissapear (and dont print) for my 3d views....any work arounds for appling surface patterns to glass?

[jordan.88811]

I would make a "glass sandwich" with extrusions, and apply a "screen" accurender material to the middle one.

[Rhythmick]

Patterns show up fine on glass in 3d (and 2d) for me.
The model lines can easily be created by adding a reference plane locked to the center of the glass (if you don't have one already) and selecting that as the work plane for the model lines, or using a glass edge for the workplane and offsetting the lines to the center. You will need to use wireframe to view the model lines under the glass surface in 2d views. If you want the wire to show in 2d elevations you will need to overlay symbolic lines over the model lines, unless someone has a way to view them in hidden line 2d without the symbolic lines.

[Alex Page]

Gee...I wonder why the surface pattern doesnt show in 3d (shaded/ Hidden line) for me? Looking carefully, sometimes some of them show..inconsistant!
Any help?
As a workaround I have done what was suggested regarding model lines - (a pain since I have a lot of windows which are different sizes) - but I dont need symbolic lines as suggested, my model lines show fine (Im drawing the on the outside of the window - not the middle)

[SkiSouth]

Alex, you did put a reference plane on the face of the glass and use it for the work plane before putting the model lines on? attached is a VERY rough start to examine.

[Rhythmick]

my model lines show fine (Im drawing the on the outside of the window - not the middle)I was going to edit my post to state that (model lines on the surface) might be a solution, if you needed both surfaces with lines you can mirror.

[Rhythmick]

Alex, you did put a reference plane on the face of the glass and use it for the work plane before putting the model lines on?The extrusion surface can be selected for the working plane.

[Alex Page]

Alex, you did put a reference plane on the face of the glass and use it for the work plane before putting the model lines on?

yep.....works fine, but more interested on why my surface patterns dont show - I need to make families!

[SkiSouth]

go back and look at the model I just added to the previous post. See if that helps.

[Rhythmick]

yep.....works fine, but more interested on why my surface patterns dont show - I need to make families!Are you creating a "model" pattern for the glass.
I'm selecting the glass in the window family going to "properties" - "materials", "glass" using the menu arrow to open the materials, duplicating the glass and adding a model pattern to it.

[Alex Page]

Are you creating a "model" pattern for the glass.
I'm selecting the glass in the window family going to "properties" - "materials", "glass" using the menu arrow to open the materials, duplicating the glass and adding a model pattern to it.

Thats exactly what I started off doing, except the model lines dont print/ show correctly in my 3d views (Shaded/ Hidden line)...., seems to dissapear with any translucent material

[Rhythmick]

Maybe your mesh is too dense?
I'll attach a sample for you to view.
I'm using 8.0

[Alex Page]

Maybe your mesh is too dense?
I'll attach a sample for you to view.
I'm using 8.0

OK..I admit, I hijacked this thread - saw the bit about surface patterns not showing! I was using 100mm horizontal spaced lines through surface pattern in the material selection - to show louvres in my curtain walls - but when I changed the material from wood to glass, the lines seemed to dissapear...yours works.
The only difference I see is that you tied the panel to a material within the family editor, whereas I tied the material to a material parameter that can be changed in the project (ie: from wooden louvres to glass or whatever)

[Alex Page]

well now Im confused.....I tried to tie in the material in the family editor...shows perfectly, but when I load it into my project, I notice that the material loses its surface properties, so I re-assign the surface pattern...but still doesnt work!, When I pan around my house in 3D...the lines show only as I have the mouse middle button depressed, then they dissapear when I release....aha! I can give a screen shot where two and a 1/4 are showing correctly - note I changed ALL the glass to have lines (as a test). This is a shaded shot to allow you to see the problem easierly (same when hidden) - all the glass should look like the ones near the front corner beside the wodden shutters.
As shown, far right pane has the lines stoping very short, most of the panes dont show any lines - properties are exactly the same! - but as shown in the second jpeg, if I turn off visibility of most of the oblects, the lines SHOW CORRECTLY :banghead:
So...
1. Revit hinks you wont see some of the surface patterns so
2. My video card cant handle it - and Revit uses the video card to print with (prints like my jpeg)


Has anyone seen this before?

[Alex Page]

ANy Ideas?

[SkiSouth]

ANy Ideas?

Sorry Alex, was out of town. Look at this thread (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=21302&highlight=glass). I think this is what you are running into.

[Alex Page]

Sorry Alex, was out of town. Look at this thread (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=21302&highlight=glass). I think this is what you are running into.

Thanks...so it looks like I cant resolve it