Re-assign in-place families?

[Vincent Valentijn]

Hi there.. I was wondering;

I have made a roof with wooden beams stuck underneath, I made them in place so I would be able to truely see them in sections instead of having to 'fake' them in my roof construction later.
Now I realise that I've made the mistake of assigning the created family to 'ceiling family' instead of the 'Roof family' since it screws with the behaviour of my ceiling fixtures.

Is there a way to re-assign the family to being part of roofs instead of ceilings, or do I need to redo the work now? any suggestions to avoid redoing the roof completely?

[aggockel50321]

Open the family (edit mode), go to Settings/Family Categories and Parameters.

You can change it there.

You can also go to Settings/Object Styles and create a subcategory of roofs, say roof trusses. Then, while in edit mode, select the solids that represent the trusses, go to properties, and assign these objects to the subcategory roof trusses.

That way you can control their visibility in different views.

[Vincent Valentijn]

aaahhhhh.. thanx Andrew, can't believe that I've missed that. So if I'm in the edit-mode of an in-place family it works just like a normal family-file.. how obvious ;)
- I've been using the sub-cats etc.. good to know it can go for in-place too.

[Steve_Stafford]

Just throwing this out there....for timber framing I've often used a roof defined as structure only that is very narrow (single timber width). Then copied it (array would work too) to assemble the framing. I then add the roof finish as a separate roof "skin" on top of the timbers.

Very easy to create and manipulate. You can use join geometry in a section view so it appears as one roof element too. Also very easy to apply a rafter tail to them with an inplace void that you cut each roof "timber" element.

[Scott Hopkins]

Just throwing this out there....for timber framing I've often used a roof defined as structure only that is very narrow (single timber width). Then copied it (array would work too) to assemble the framing. I then add the roof finish as a separate roof "skin" on top of the timbers.

Very easy to create and manipulate. You can use join geometry in a section view so it appears as one roof element too. Also very easy to apply a rafter tail to them with an inplace void that you cut each roof "timber" element.Steve

That's one hell of an idea. I have been struggling with this very issue. I am definitely going to give this a try. The fact that you are making the beams/rafters out of a roof family should make things SO much easier. This is a good one for tips and tricks! (Edit by SD: T&T's...Done!)

[Steve_Stafford]

Glad you like it...I do...8-) Here's an example...

[Scott D Davis]

Nice! Time to start sharing some of those railing families, too....8-)

[sifuentes]

Just throwing this out there....for timber framing I've often used a roof defined as structure only that is very narrow (single timber width). Then copied it (array would work too) to assemble the framing. I then add the roof finish as a separate roof "skin" on top of the timbers.

Very easy to create and manipulate. You can use join geometry in a section view so it appears as one roof element too. Also very easy to apply a rafter tail to them with an inplace void that you cut each roof "timber" element.

How do you apply the void to the rafter to do the tail?