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Simon.Whitbread
2007-11-26, 03:47 PM
Hi Phil

Laptop HP NW9440
Centrino Duo CPU T7400 @ 2.16GHz
Nvidia Quadro FX 1500m

Couple of things...

AllowPressAndDrag - not in ini file (mine anyway)

Attached results but not complete, came to an end with the 'enter interactive mode' button while trying to export views

18 opening and loading the custom template
15 creating the floors levels and grids.
48 creating a group of walls and doors
80 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
33 creating the exterior curtain wall
17 creating the sections
16 changing the curtain wall panel type
15 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
40 changing the levels height
94 update group to maintain level to level height
90 render a 3d view
14 export different views

Simon.Whitbread
2007-11-26, 07:00 PM
Had a look into why it wasn't working...



You need a subfolder called AUBench-Output under the first folder ( C:\AUBench\AUBench-Output )
so - results are:

17 opening and loading the custom template
15 creating the floors levels and grids.
47 creating a group of walls and doors
80 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
34 creating the exterior curtain wall
16 creating the sections
16 changing the curtain wall panel type
15 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
41 changing the levels height
94 update group to maintain level to level height
91 render a 3d view
246 export different views
8 save the project

-pc running XP only, so you can benchmark against a virgin machine ( I can't account for all the software cr4p loaded though ) ;)

GuyR
2007-11-26, 08:42 PM
AMD 64X2 4.4Ghz, 2GB RAM, 10K HD's,8600 nVidia, WinXP 32:

12, opening and loading the custom template
10, creating the floors levels and grids.
46, creating a group of walls and doors
91, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
33, creating the exterior curtain wall
13, creating the sections
17, changing the curtain wall panel type
15, creating a perspective view
5, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
46, changing the levels height
103, update group to maintain level to level height
89, render a 3d view
277,export different views
8,save the project
----------------------------------
Total : 765

dfriesen
2007-11-26, 11:10 PM
Thanks to those who worked in developing this benchmark - should be very useful in determining hardware needs!

Desktop PC
WinXP Pro
Core2Duo x6800 2.93
4GB RAM
ATI FireGL 3400


9 opening and loading the custom template
7 creating the floors levels and grids.
33 creating a group of walls and doors
64 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
34 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
12 changing the curtain wall panel type
9 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
30 changing the levels height
73 update group to maintain level to level height
72 render a 3d view
181 export different views
6 save the project
543 TOTAL

sfaust
2007-11-26, 11:13 PM
Intel Core2 @ 2.66GHz, 3.5GB RAM, WinXP Pro SP2, NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500

8 opening and loading the custom template
7 creating the floors levels and grids.
34 creating a group of walls and doors
62 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
25 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
12 changing the curtain wall panel type
11 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
31 changing the levels height
75 update group to maintain level to level height
79 render a 3d view
193 export different views
6 save the project

556 Total

ron.sanpedro
2007-12-02, 05:32 AM
Now on my home machine I have run a few tests, and noticed some interesting things. The first launch of Revit does seem to be slower (15 seconds vs 14 in my case) but not as much as I was expecting. And running iTunes does have an impact, amounting to about a 5% reduction over the full benchmark. Perhaps not much, but not trivial either. And the saddest part, my home machine is a dog!

14 opening and loading the custom template
11 creating the floors levels and grids.
47 creating a group of walls and doors
109 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
33 creating the exterior curtain wall
13 creating the sections
17 changing the curtain wall panel type
15 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
47 changing the levels height
125 update group to maintain level to level height
91 render a 3d view
279 export different views
9 save the project
815 Total

That puts me at 5% slower than some folks running a VM on a MacBook, and a whopping 80% slower than the high end MacPro in BootCamp! And that was my fastest run, no other apps open, second launch, etc. :(

AMD Athlon 64X2 4200+, 2G RAM, 7200rpm sATA HD, ATI FireGL v3300, WinXP 32, OpenGL On


Gordon

Wes Macaulay
2007-12-03, 08:51 PM
11 opening and loading the custom template
8 creating the floors levels and grids.
37 creating a group of walls and doors
68 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
30 creating the exterior curtain wall
10 creating the sections
13 changing the curtain wall panel type
12 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
35 changing the levels height
82 update group to maintain level to level height
50 render a 3d view
243 export different views
8 save the project
611 Total

WinXP Pro SP2
Q6600 Core 2 Quad 2.4Ghz, Intel DG33BU
2Gb RAM 667 Mhz

To check your own CPU and memory specs, download the attached zipfile.

Wes Macaulay
2007-12-03, 10:35 PM
14 opening and loading the custom template
11 creating the floors levels and grids.
48 creating a group of walls and doors
90 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
56 creating the exterior curtain wall
13 creating the sections
19 changing the curtain wall panel type
18 creating a perspective view
6 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
47 changing the levels height
110 update group to maintain level to level height
91 render a 3d view
347 export different views
11 save the project

881 Total

Dell Inspiron 6400/E1505
WinXP Pro SP2
T2500 2.0 Ghz Core Duo CPU
2Gb of 533Mhz RAM

Once SP3 comes out we ought to run these benchmarks again! My first score was 907, and after turning off some services I don't need, dropped the score to 881.

mruehr
2007-12-03, 11:28 PM
My Work Comp
I want more power
Anybody with a QX9770 or Xenon out there

9 opening and loading the custom template
7 creating the floors levels and grids.
41 creating a group of walls and doors
79 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
27 creating the exterior curtain wall
10 creating the sections
15 changing the curtain wall panel type
12 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
40 changing the levels height
95 update group to maintain level to level height
85 render a 3d view
254 export different views
6 save the project

685 Total

Win Xp SP2
Core 2 duo 6400@2.13 GHz
2 GB Ram

david.kingham
2007-12-03, 11:36 PM
Curiously I tried the test on 2 different machines with the same specs, the only difference is one is running XP with 4gb of ram and the other is running XP64 with 12gb of ram. Surprisingly the 32 bit machine won :(
I've had mixed results in other tests I've run, some tasks are much faster on 64 and some are slower....God please let Revit 09 be 64 bit!

iru69
2007-12-04, 12:24 AM
Opteron 175 2.2GHz (Athlon X2 4400+)
2GB RAM
Nvidia GF6600
Vista Premium

11 opening and loading the custom template
8 creating the floors levels and grids.
45 creating a group of walls and doors
89 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
30 creating the exterior curtain wall
12 creating the sections
16 changing the curtain wall panel type
14 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
46 changing the levels height
104 update group to maintain level to level height
88 render a 3d view
283 export different views
8 save the project
758 TOTAL

truevis
2007-12-04, 03:39 AM
Did several tests, logging off between them. With virus checker off it was about 3% faster. Some results:

8 opening and loading the custom template
4 creating the floors levels and grids.
32 creating a group of walls and doors
67 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
17 creating the exterior curtain wall
6 creating the sections
15 changing the curtain wall panel type
14 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
30 changing the levels height
79 update group to maintain level to level height
68 render a 3d view
191 export different views
4 save the project
540 Total


With virus scanner turned off
7 opening and loading the custom template
4 creating the floors levels and grids.
32 creating a group of walls and doors
67 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
18 creating the exterior curtain wall
5 creating the sections
9 changing the curtain wall panel type
5 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
31 changing the levels height
78 update group to maintain level to level height
69 render a 3d view
191 export different views
4 save the project
523 total 3.15% faster



No openGL because used remote desktop.

OS NameMicrosoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional x64 Edition
Version5.2.3790 Service Pack 2 Build 3790
Other OS Description Not Available
OS ManufacturerMicrosoft Corporation
System ManufacturerIBM
System ModelIBM IntelliStation M Pro -[9229MC1]-
System Typex64-based PC
ProcessorEM64T Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6 GenuineIntel ~2400 Mhz
ProcessorEM64T Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6 GenuineIntel ~2400 Mhz
BIOS Version/DateIBM IBM BIOS Version 1.18-[GVE118AUS-1.18]-, 11/17/2006
SMBIOS Version2.4
LocaleUnited States
Hardware Abstraction LayerVersion = "5.2.3790.3959
(srv03_sp2_rtm.070216-1710)"
Total Physical Memory4,093.80 MB
Available Physical Memory3.17 GB
Total Virtual Memory5.74 GB
Available Virtual Memory5.29 GB
Page File Space2.00 GB
Page FileC:\pagefile.sys

truevis
2007-12-04, 03:50 AM
... Surprisingly the 32 bit machine won :(...!

!!! Is right !!!

You'd think the xp64 would be faster. Do they have the identical things running (like what's in startup)?

ideadude
2007-12-04, 04:40 AM
Wes

That little sysspec file is really handy. Thanks for the attachment.

I have not used AB300 Journal, but Sandraware is a good product

My older home/office system

Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
CPU Speed: 2973.0 MHz
Memory (RAM) 3.50 Ghz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Screen Resolution: 1680 X 1050 - 32 bit

Chug a chug .... along

ijnicholas
2007-12-04, 05:56 PM
intel Core 2 Duo E6400
2GB RAM
Video Asus EN7600GS 256MB
Windows XP

16 opening and loading the custom template
8 creating the floors levels and grids.
48 creating a group of walls and doors
84 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
28 creating the exterior curtain wall
11 creating the sections
14 changing the curtain wall panel type
13 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
42 changing the levels height
98 update group to maintain level to level height
86 render a 3d view
233 export different views
7 save the project

total: 692

david.kingham
2007-12-04, 06:59 PM
!!! Is right !!!

You'd think the xp64 would be faster. Do they have the identical things running (like what's in startup)?
I decided to try this again, I did have some other programs open the first time around on the 64 machine....Here's my revised results. 64 and 32 are virtually identical in this test. I also tried it on a Quad Core HP, it was much slower except for the rendering was blazing fast. This is because Revit only uses one out of the 8 processors for everything except rendering.

I also tried every combination of Opengl/overlay planes and there was no difference

Also to see your system stats you do not need to download that, just go to Run and type msinfo32

Wes Macaulay
2007-12-04, 07:38 PM
Also to see your system stats you do not need to download that, just go to Run and type msinfo32

MSInfo doesn't show RAM speed, which is good for comparison in these situations. Thanks for reposting your tests!

john_ade
2007-12-04, 07:40 PM
Dell Latitude D830
Intel Core 2 Duo
T7300 @ 2.00 GHz
4 GB RAM
Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2

13, opening and loading the custom template
9, creating the floors levels and grids.
42, creating a group of walls and doors
80, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
29, creating the exterior curtain wall
11, creating the sections
15, changing the curtain wall panel type
13, creating a perspective view
4, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
40, changing the levels height
95, update group to maintain level to level height
94, render a 3d view
254,export different views
7,save the project

706 TOTAL

david.kingham
2007-12-04, 08:00 PM
Good to know, unfortunately it doesn't work correctly in XP64, only shows 4gb of ram and says i'm running Server 2003

Wes Macaulay
2007-12-04, 08:05 PM
Your results are interesting as they show a back-and-forth battle between XP64 and XP32 for different tasks. Qualitatively, which one seems to work better? And on the large projects, I assume XP64 shines?

david.kingham
2007-12-04, 08:21 PM
I've had very mixed results, in the end it all seems to even out. Here's a test I just did on a 185mb project. I also tested between 4gb of ram and 12gb on the same machine and it made no difference, we've really reached the end of revit's current capabilities in 32 bit, 64 bit revit will change our world though. I have to say XP64 is much faster all around though.

iru69
2007-12-04, 09:26 PM
There is nothing inherently faster about 64bit. Practically speaking, the only benefit is larger memory addressing (which can result in better performance if sufficient memory is available when needed). Furthermore, Revit isn't even 64bit (yet).

Windows XP x64 isn't based on XP - it's based on Windows Server 2003.

Arorah
2007-12-05, 12:56 AM
Here's my result:

10 opening and loading the custom template
6 creating the floors levels and grids.
37 creating a group of walls and doors
57 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
23 creating the exterior curtain wall
8 creating the sections
10 changing the curtain wall panel type
9 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
28 changing the levels height
67 update group to maintain level to level height
69 render a 3d view
178 export different views
5 save the project

Total 510 (Not bad!)

Using a Dell Precision 390 with X6800 2.93GHz, 1066,4MB L2/Dual-Core Processor| 4GB RAM| nVidia,Quadro FX 3450,256MB dual Video Card| Windows XP PRO SP2 w/ 3GB Switch enabled.
----
Rohit Arora
IT/CAD Manager
Bohlin Cywinski Jackson
49 Geary Street, Suite 300
San Francisco, California

mrioux
2007-12-05, 03:43 PM
This feedback is great!

Here's my configuration and results:

Manufacturer: LENOVO T60p Laptop (Product Make: 8744C9U)
Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2047 MB
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU - T7200 @ 2.00GHz
CPU Speed: 315.8 MHz
Display Adapters: ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5250 (Internal DAC(400MHZ) 512 MB)
Metrics: 1680 x 1050 - 32 bit

Tried various configurations with/without external LCD monitor as well as on/off network. All results recorded were within one second:

12 opening and loading the custom template
9 creating the floors levels and grids.
43 creating a group of walls and doors
82 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
29 creating the exterior curtain wall
11 creating the sections
17 changing the curtain wall panel type
13 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
41 changing the levels height
97 update group to maintain level to level height
87 render a 3d view
258 export different views
8 save the project

Total 712

ron.sanpedro
2007-12-06, 12:17 AM
Anyone had success with benchmarking a Vista machine? I have yet to get any joy on the Vista front.

Thanks,
Gordon

darrenplewis
2007-12-07, 11:06 PM
With 3GB switch enabled

14 opening and loading the custom template
14 creating the floors levels and grids.
46 creating a group of walls and doors
80 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
32 creating the exterior curtain wall
16 creating the sections
16 changing the curtain wall panel type
14 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
41 changing the levels height
95 update group to maintain level to level height
91 render a 3d view
243 export different views
8 save the project
715 TOTAL


System Info
OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
System Model HP Compaq nw9440 (RM160UT#ABA)
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6 GenuineIntel ~2161 Mhz
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6 GenuineIntel ~2161 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Hewlett-Packard 68YAF Ver. F.19, 12/14/2006
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2765 (xpsp.050928-1517)"
Time Zone Pacific Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 4,096.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 2.56 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.54 GB
Available Virtual Memory 2.45 GB
Page File Space 5.23 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

iru69
2007-12-08, 02:16 AM
You're asking about Vista on a PC (not a Mac)?
Yes, see my post earlier in this thread.

If it's not working for you, I'm guessing it's a video driver issue. I think the benchmark really does a stress test on it. But that's just a guess.


Anyone had success with benchmarking a Vista machine? I have yet to get any joy on the Vista front.

ed.76566
2007-12-10, 12:35 AM
Dell Precision Mobile Workstation M6300
Dual Core 2 Duo X7900 (2.80GHz 4M L2 Cache, 800MHz)
Windows XP Professional, SP2
4.0GB, DDR2-667 SDRAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M 512MB
200GB Hard Drive, 9.5MM, 7200RPM

With 3GB switch enabled (finally)

8 opening and loading the custom template
7 creating the floors levels and grids.
32 creating a group of walls and doors
59 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
23 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
11 changing the curtain wall panel type
10 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
30 changing the levels height
71 update group to maintain level to level height
73 render a 3d view
182 export different views
6 save the project

Total: 524

Not bad for a Laptop, best system I have had to date.

Note: To enable the 3GB switch on a Precision is tricky: the standard setting from Autodesk does not work.
Here is what I have for my second line in my boot.ini

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional 3GB" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /3GB /USERVA=2800

Ed

Wes Macaulay
2007-12-12, 06:19 PM
11 opening and loading the custom template
8 creating the floors levels and grids.
42 creating a group of walls and doors
76 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
29 creating the exterior curtain wall
10 creating the sections
15 changing the curtain wall panel type
12 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
38 changing the levels height
92 update group to maintain level to level height
86 render a 3d view
267 export different views
8 save the project

699 Total

This is a MacBook Pro with the Core 2 Duo 2.2 Ghz processor booting into XP Pro SP2
with 1Gb of 667 Mhz RAM. This is not virtualized, hence I'm posting here.

Wes Macaulay
2007-12-15, 03:30 PM
17 opening and loading the custom template
10 creating the floors levels and grids.
64 creating a group of walls and doors
152 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
42 creating the exterior curtain wall
15 creating the sections
22 changing the curtain wall panel type
20 creating a perspective view
7 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
65 changing the levels height
178 update group to maintain level to level height
113 render a 3d view
394 export different views
12 save the project
1111 Total

Dell Vostro 1000, AMD Athlon 64 TK-53, Windows XP SP2
1Gb 533 Mhz RAM, 5400 RPM 80Gb HD
ATI Radeon 1150 Xpress video

This laptop cost $500 ;-)

truevis
2007-12-15, 07:10 PM
20 opening and loading the custom template
13 creating the floors levels and grids.
67 creating a group of walls and doors
161 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
53 creating the exterior curtain wall
15 creating the sections
25 changing the curtain wall panel type
22 creating a perspective view
8 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
70 changing the levels height
188 update group to maintain level to level height
130 render a 3d view
413 export different views
15 save the project
1200 Total
OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
System Model Presario V2000 (EZ617UA#ABA)
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 44 Stepping 2 AuthenticAMD ~1989 Mhz
Total Physical Memory 1,280.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 531.68 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 1.56 GB

bhoward
2007-12-15, 10:33 PM
Dell Precision PWS 390
Intel Core 2 Quad 2.66GHz
3.25 GB of RAM
14, opening and loading the custom template
7, creating the floors levels and grids.
35, creating a group of walls and doors
63, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
26, creating the exterior curtain wall
9, creating the sections
12, changing the curtain wall panel type
11, creating a perspective view
4, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
32, changing the levels height
76, update group to maintain level to level height
56, render a 3d view
208,export different views
5,save the project

558 Total

AP23
2007-12-16, 05:19 PM
15, opening and loading the custom template
8, creating the floors levels and grids.
58, creating a group of walls and doors
116, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
37, creating the exterior curtain wall
12, creating the sections
20, changing the curtain wall panel type
16, creating a perspective view
6, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
58, changing the levels height
137, update group to maintain level to level height
98, render a 3d view
326,export different views
11,save the project

Total 918

Macbook Pro 2.4 GH/z Intel Core Dou
Bootcamp Windows XP sp2
2GB
NVIDA GeForce 8600 GT


I'm going to reformat the bootcamp side and run this test again. If the speed doens't improve then i'll be putting this expensive laptop on ebay for a dime. Anyone interested in buying a slow but beautifull mac?

Wes Macaulay
2007-12-16, 10:20 PM
I don't understand why your Mac is so slow while the one in our office with the slower CPU is faster!

muttlieb
2007-12-16, 11:01 PM
Athlon X2 4800+
2GB RAM
Nvidia GF6600
XP Pro

12 opening and loading the custom template
9 creating the floors levels and grids.
42 creating a group of walls and doors
81 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
29 creating the exterior curtain wall
12 creating the sections
14 changing the curtain wall panel type
13 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
42 changing the levels height
97 update group to maintain level to level height
84 render a 3d view
257 export different views
7 save the project

704 Total

AP23
2007-12-17, 01:42 AM
11, opening and loading the custom template
11, creating the floors levels and grids.
57, creating a group of walls and doors
116, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
41, creating the exterior curtain wall
14, creating the sections
23, changing the curtain wall panel type
20, creating a perspective view
7, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
52, changing the levels height
131, update group to maintain level to level height
98, render a 3d view
340,export different views
9,save the project

930 total

Macbook Pro 2.4 GH/z Intel Core Dou
Bootcamp Windows XP sp2
2GB
NVIDA GeForce 8600 GT

New test after re-installing windows partition. I've jump started the Revit a few times to get it up to speed. I've only installed Revit, turned everything else off to gain some speed, but as you can see, it made it worst. Well, that is the end of my mac experience. I'm going back to a cheap Acer or Dell. I just hope i can sell this piece of **** before Christmas.

Wes Macaulay
2007-12-17, 08:00 AM
Before you ditch it, have you dumped any services that might be running that you don't need? Defragged the drive? Run services.msc and disable Alerter, Clipbook, Distributed Link Tracking, Indexing Service, Messenger, and set to manual any other services you may not need.

Your numbers are weird. Try exchanging it if you can.

AP23
2007-12-17, 09:37 AM
Before you ditch it, have you dumped any services that might be running that you don't need? Defragged the drive? Run services.msc and disable Alerter, Clipbook, Distributed Link Tracking, Indexing Service, Messenger, and set to manual any other services you may not need.

Your numbers are weird. Try exchanging it if you can.

I only installed Revit on the bootcamp partition after I deleted the partition and installed a fresh copy of Leopard without archiving. So, on the Leopard partition I only have Leopard installed and on the windows partition I only have Windows XP and Revit installed.

Tomorrow, I'm going to let the people at the local Apple store take a look at it. The strange thing is that I haven't met any mac owners that had such a bad result, so I gues it's a problem my mac has. The only difficulty is to try to explain this problem at the Apple store. They are very quick to say that it is a Windows problem and not the laptop.

muttlieb
2007-12-17, 08:53 PM
Intel P4 670 3.8GHz
2GB RAM
Quadro FX 540
XP Pro

13 opening and loading the custom template
14 creating the floors levels and grids.
60 creating a group of walls and doors
111 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
41 creating the exterior curtain wall
19 creating the sections
21 changing the curtain wall panel type
18 creating a perspective view
7 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
59 changing the levels height
133 update group to maintain level to level height
106 render a 3d view
317 export different views
10 save the project

929 Total

AP23
2007-12-19, 09:17 PM
3rd attempt

9, opening and loading the custom template
8, creating the floors levels and grids.
37, creating a group of walls and doors
70, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
25, creating the exterior curtain wall
10, creating the sections
14, changing the curtain wall panel type
11, creating a perspective view
4, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
35, changing the levels height
82, update group to maintain level to level height
82, render a 3d view
214,export different views
7,save the project

608 Total


Macbook Pro 2.4 GH/z Intel Core Duo
Bootcamp Windows XP sp2
2GB
NVIDA GeForce 8600 GT

The guy at the Apple store reseted the system by pressing 4 keys (alt-command and two other keys, don't remember) at the same time. Initially he did it to reset Airport, because it had and extremely slow download rate. For some reason that action caused the whole system to work much faster. So I'm quite happy with the results, but don't know what the cause was for the initial slow down.

ijnicholas
2007-12-20, 03:31 PM
new comp at office:

3 GHz/ Core 2 Duo 6800
4GB RAM
WindowsXP 64
RVT arch 2008 20070607_1700
PCI Express GeForce 7600GS - 512 MB
3 GB/s SATA / Internal / 8MB Cache / 7200rpm

10 opening and loading the custom template
5 creating the floors levels and grids.
29 creating a group of walls and doors
54 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
19 creating the exterior curtain wall
7 creating the sections
10 changing the curtain wall panel type
9 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
27 changing the levels height
64 update group to maintain level to level height
67 render a 3d view
157 export different views
4 save the project

465 Total (seconds)

cjneedham
2007-12-22, 09:48 PM
I'm shopping for a new machine now.

11 opening and loading the custom template
16 creating the floors levels and grids.
52 creating a group of walls and doors
131 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
54 creating the exterior curtain wall
26 creating the sections
28 changing the curtain wall panel type
25 creating a perspective view
9 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
76 changing the levels height
175 update group to maintain level to level height
175 render a 3d view
458 export different views
14 save the project

1250 total

Dell Inspiron 9300 Notebook
Physical Memory 2Gb Ram
Available Physical Memory 867Mb
Intel Pentium M 2.00Ghz Processor
Total VM 2Gb
Available VM 1.96Gb
Page File Space 5.85Gb
NVidia GeForce Go 6800, 256Mb
Windows XP
100Gb HDD, 5400RPM

I've got quite a bit of stuff installed on this machine. Might clean and re-install OS over Christmas and see what I can get this figure down to.
Lucky for me I'm not on Revit every day.

bcsanderson
2007-12-28, 12:03 AM
35 opening and loading the custom template
18 creating the floors levels and grids.
97 creating a group of walls and doors
230 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
70 creating the exterior curtain wall
25 creating the sections
35 changing the curtain wall panel type
30 creating a perspective view
11 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
105 changing the levels height
263 update group to maintain level to level height
146 render a 3d view
515 export different views
17 save the project

1597

Sony VAIO
P4 3Ghz (23x133) Northwood
1Gig PC2700 DDR
NVIDIA Geforce4 MX 64Mb

Time for a new computer I think.

crispin.schurr
2008-01-03, 01:25 AM
Work computer :

Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2048 MB
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
CPU Speed: 2386.6 MHz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI | Microsoft SMS Mirror Driver | NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI | NetMeeting driver | RDPDD Chained DD
Screen Resolution: 1920 X 1200 - 32 bit
Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
Product Make: Precision WorkStation 390


8 opening and loading the custom template
8 creating the floors levels and grids.
37 creating a group of walls and doors
69 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
24 creating the exterior curtain wall
11 creating the sections
13 changing the curtain wall panel type
11 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
34 changing the levels height
81 update group to maintain level to level height
83 render a 3d view
200 export different views
6 save the project

589

Thanx for the benchmarking tool. C

cjneedham
2008-01-08, 06:17 AM
New Client machine:

Acer Core2 Q6600 Quad Core 2.4Ghz
WD Caviar SE 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
256Mb NVidia GeForce 8600GT Video Card
2Gb RAM
2Gb Virtual Memory
Clean Install - Windows XP and Revit 2008 only

7 opening and loading the custom template
8 creating the floors levels and grids.
35 creating a group of walls and doors
67 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
24 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
13 changing the curtain wall panel type
10 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
34 changing the levels height
80 update group to maintain level to level height
51 render a 3d view
196 export different views
6 save the project

544 TOTAL

Will add more RAM and run test again.

Mr Spot
2008-01-16, 03:08 AM
New Office Machine:

I was running Outlook and Filemaker 8.5 in the background.

OS: Vista x64 Ultimate
Memory (RAM): 4095 MB
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Screen Resolution: 1920 X 1200 - 32 bit
Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5K Deluxe

6 opening and loading the custom template
7 creating the floors levels and grids.
31 creating a group of walls and doors
56 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
21 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
10 changing the curtain wall panel type
10 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
29 changing the levels height
66 update group to maintain level to level height
76 render a 3d view
171 export different views
5 save the project

500

cybermole
2008-01-16, 10:17 AM
Where can i locate this benchmark?

Henry D
2008-01-16, 11:39 AM
http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=71482

It's the zip file in Phil Read's first post.

jsylvstr13
2008-01-16, 04:05 PM
Here are my stats:
Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2047 MB
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz
CPU Speed: 3188.5 MHz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA Quadro FX 570 | NVIDIA Quadro FX 570
Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit
BIOS Info: ATAT COMPATIBLE 033106 DELL 7
Motherboard: Dell Inc. 0HJ054
Physical Total: 2047 MB
Physical Free: 1452 MB
Page File Total: 3940 MB
Page File Free: 3524 MB
Virtual Total: 2048 MB
Virtual Free: 1991 MB

Here's my score:

16 opening and loading the custom template
11 creating the floors levels and grids.
63 creating a group of walls and doors
117 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
43 creating the exterior curtain wall
16 creating the sections
23 changing the curtain wall panel type
18 creating a perspective view
7 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
62 changing the levels height
141 update group to maintain level to level height
100 render a 3d view
355 export different views
10 save the project

982 Total

Can someone tell me what I need to do to make this score better. I need to upgrade the computers at my office for Revit and I'd like to have them running a little better than this one. This is the only PC we have like this. The rest won't even fully run the benchmark.

Thanks

iru69
2008-01-16, 05:31 PM
Can someone tell me what I need to do to make this score better.
You need a faster computer. ;)
Check out the computer specs in this thread of the posted low scores - that should give you an idea of the specs to look for. Also, check out the stickied hardware recommendations threads posted at the top of the Revit Hardware forum. If you have some specific questions about hardware, I would suggest starting a new thread. Good luck!

dazza163968596
2008-01-17, 09:07 AM
Hers's My Results
25 opening and loading the custom template
12 creating the floors levels and grids.
67 creating a group of walls and doors
141 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
55 creating the exterior curtain wall
17 creating the sections
25 changing the curtain wall panel type
20 creating a perspective view
8 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
68 changing the levels height
163 update group to maintain level to level height
76 render a 3d view
396 export different views
11 save the project


1084

My Machine is 41/2 years old
Dual 3.4 GHz xeon processors with Hyper threading Enabled
800 mHz FSB
4 Gb 400mHz DDR ram
Nvidia Quadro 4 980 XGL graphics card with 256 Mb DDR ram

I think it may be time to push for that new computer

jsylvstr13
2008-01-17, 02:23 PM
You need a faster computer. ;)!

That's what I'm doing wrong! :mrgreen:

I was hoping maybe there was an easier way than reading through all of the posts. I should have written then down the first time I read through them all. I may start a new thread anyway just for the opinions. I keep reading mixed articles about what is important and what is not.

mattmols
2008-01-18, 06:14 AM
Just finished building my new home computer:

Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2030 MB
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz
CPU Speed: 2996.4 MHz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA Quadro FX 1700
Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit

6 opening and loading the custom template
5 creating the floors levels and grids.
78 creating a group of walls and doors
59 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
20 creating the exterior curtain wall
7 creating the sections
9 changing the curtain wall panel type
19 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
27 changing the levels height
69 update group to maintain level to level height
70 render a 3d view
165 export different views
5 save the project
542

I ran this on my old computer and it was about a 1500....

sbrown
2008-01-18, 03:20 PM
I can't run the benchmark on my machine. It goes into interactive mode right away. My guess is its the way our revit is set to point to our network for various libraries. Any ideas?

gopalkaranam
2008-01-18, 05:41 PM
Results
-----------------
18 opening and loading the custom template
19 creating the floors levels and grids.
85 creating a group of walls and doors
189 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
58 creating the exterior curtain wall
20 creating the sections
30 changing the curtain wall panel type
25 creating a perspective view
9 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
87 changing the levels height
221 update group to maintain level to level height
130 render a 3d view
440 export different views
12 save the project
----------------------------------------
1343

:-( I need to get a new desktop

Desktop Configuration
--------------------------------
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
2GB DDR Memory
Asus P4C800 Deluxe (200MHz FSB)

Windows XP SP2
1280x1024 Resolution

Update:
-----------
I overclocked CPU, Memory and GPU. Ran Defrag on C: driver. Here are latest numbers.

16 opening and loading the custom template
12 creating the floors levels and grids.
65 creating a group of walls and doors
153 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
45 creating the exterior curtain wall
17 creating the sections
23 changing the curtain wall panel type
19 creating a perspective view
7 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
71 changing the levels height
177 update group to maintain level to level height
104 render a 3d view
344 export different views
10 save the project
--------------------------------------------
1063

20% overall improvement :-)

truevis
2008-01-18, 05:56 PM
I can't run the benchmark on my machine. It goes into interactive mode right away. My guess is its the way our revit is set to point to our network for various libraries. Any ideas?

How about use a revit.ini from a stock install? Or do a stock install, then put it back the way it was.

rmejia
2008-01-18, 06:09 PM
I can't run the benchmark on my machine. It goes into interactive mode right away. My guess is its the way our revit is set to point to our network for various libraries. Any ideas?

I was having this problem when using a certain program to unzip the file (i use 7zip), I unzipped it using another computer with another zip program and then the file worked.

Try using this attached re zipped archive:

gordonp147484
2008-01-18, 10:35 PM
One thing I have noticed in doing 30 plus benchmarks in the office is the importance of a Core2 processor. We have some 11 month old Dell Precision 490's that use Core2 Xeon processors, and score in the mid 500s. We have some 13 month old Precision 490s that use NetBurst Xeons (at a much higher clock speed) and score in the upper 900s. All other aspects, including 10,000 rpm, drives, nVidia Quadro FX 3500 cards, 4G of fast ram, etc are the same.
And we have some 3 year old Precision 380s that use NetBurst Penium 4s, also at moderately higher clock speeds, lesser FX 1400 graphics cards, 4G of slower ram, and score in the upper 900s.
So the $3000 spent today buys you a lot, but the $3000 spent 13 months ago gives you basically the same Revit performance as the $2000 you spent 36 months ago.

Some other interesting things that have come out. An $800 quad core Xeon is NOT any faster for Revit use than a similarly clocked non Xeon. The Xeon based machine will allow for a second Quad core chip and lots more ram, both of which Revit will studiously ignore.
Also, an $800 FX 3500 was consistently slightly SLOWER than the $200 FX 570, by about 5%.

I tried to evaluate multicore impacts by testing two similar machines, one a dula core, one a single, with only Revit running. THen repeating the test with iTunes streaming, a sports web page open and regularly refreshing, etc. Not any real difference, but then those are either intermittent or low CPU tasks. My next step is to test with and without a virus scan going in the background. And a Symantec virus scan to boot. Now THAT should put a testable load on the CPU(s)! ;)

Best,
Gordon

jes.149472
2008-01-22, 02:53 PM
Intel Core 2 6600 @ 2.40 Ghz
2 Gig Ram
Windows Vista 64
FireGL V5100 video

8, opening and loading the custom template
6, creating the floors levels and grids.
36, creating a group of walls and doors
69, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
24, creating the exterior curtain wall
9, creating the sections
12, changing the curtain wall panel type
10, creating a perspective view
4, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
34, changing the levels height
82, update group to maintain level to level height
80, render a 3d view
219,export different views
6,save the project

599,total

muttlieb
2008-01-22, 11:55 PM
Dell Precision T3400
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.00GHz
4GB RAM
Quadro FX570
XP Pro

6 opening and loading the custom template
8 creating the floors levels and grids.
31 creating a group of walls and doors
55 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
21 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
11 changing the curtain wall panel type
10 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
27 changing the levels height
66 update group to maintain level to level height
71 render a 3d view
168 export different views
6 save the project

492 Total

dhurtubise
2008-01-23, 08:38 PM
I can't run the benchmark on my machine. It goes into interactive mode right away. My guess is its the way our revit is set to point to our network for various libraries. Any ideas?

Check in your ini if Press& Drag is on

Takuwind
2008-01-25, 12:05 AM
8 Processors - not bad...

9 opening and loading the custom template
5 creating the floors levels and grids.
28 creating a group of walls and doors
55 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
18 creating the exterior curtain wall
7 creating the sections
10 changing the curtain wall panel type
8 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
27 changing the levels height
65 update group to maintain level to level height
32 render a 3d view
170 export different views
6 save the project

443 Total


Precision T7400
Windows: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
5.2.3790 Service Pack 2 Build 3790
Memory (RAM): 4094 MB
CPU: DUAL Xeon X5450 @ 3.00GHz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600

iru69
2008-01-25, 01:47 AM
Interesting to compare the Dell Precision T7400 with the Dell Precision T3400 a couple posts above (below). Both have 4GB RAM, the T7400 has the $1,500 video card and the T3400 has the $250 card.

T3400: Core 2 Duo (6850) @ 3GHz: 492 seconds
T7400: dual Xeon quad cores (5450) @ 3GHz :443 seconds

Take away the 39 second difference in rendering speed (where all those cores make a difference) and it only has about a 10 second advantage or about 3%. That's a $2,000 computer versus a $7,000 computer.

ron.sanpedro
2008-01-26, 02:12 AM
Interesting to compare the Dell Precision T7400 with the Dell Precision T3400 a couple posts above (below). Both have 4GB RAM, the T7400 has the $1,500 video card and the T3400 has the $250 card.

T3400: Core 2 Duo (6850) @ 3GHz: 492 seconds
T7400: dual Xeon quad cores (5450) @ 3GHz :443 seconds

Take away the 39 second difference in rendering speed (where all those cores make a difference) and it only has about a 10 second advantage or about 3%. That's a $2,000 computer versus a $7,000 computer.

Yep, get something Core2 based at a reasonable clock, and a decent graphics card over about $100, and you just maxed out your non-rendering Revit performance. Maybe spring for a Mac and you can increase your general Windows stability with a little performance loss, but after about $2000 I doubt you can really do much (at the PC) to increase Revit performance. Seems a bit odd, doesn't it?

Gordon

Wes Macaulay
2008-02-04, 07:54 PM
Yep, get something Core2 based at a reasonable clock, and a decent graphics card over about $100, and you just maxed out your non-rendering Revit performance. Maybe spring for a Mac and you can increase your general Windows stability with a little performance loss, but after about $2000 I doubt you can really do much (at the PC) to increase Revit performance. Seems a bit odd, doesn't it?

I think it's great -- it means you don't have to have a really expensive PC to play at the Revit game.

brian104662
2008-02-05, 04:43 PM
10, opening and loading the custom template
4, creating the floors levels and grids.
27, creating a group of walls and doors
52, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
19, creating the exterior curtain wall
6, creating the sections
9, changing the curtain wall panel type
8, creating a perspective view
3, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
26, changing the levels height
63, update group to maintain level to level height
61, render a 3d view
164,export different views
4,save the project

456 TOTAL

I was surfing the web during this and antivirus was on so we'll see what happens when running under optimal conditions. Here's our specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz
Windows Professional x64
4 Gig 1066 Crucial RAM
ATI 100-505148 FireGL V3400 128MB 256-bit
2 10,000 Western Digital Raptor (Not RAID configured)

We built this machine for about $1,360, using old monitor and I/O devices (mouse etc...) so needless to say if you saw my other post we are extremely happy! We benchmarked near 1600 last time.

sbrown
2008-02-05, 05:56 PM
This bench mark test is fun, but I'm having a hard time translating it into real working behavior. I've run it on 7 diff. machines in our office. And the fastest at 504 was our Admin stations which are small dell boxes. They smoked our 64bit machine(which was right under 600) and our typical workstation at 570ish). My guess is my theory about integrated graphics. the admin stations have integrated graphics as do many laptops(which have all scored faster then desktops with various video cards). I'm absolutely convinced revit performance is directly related to graphics. And for some reason integrated graphics performs better than sep cards in all my testing.

Now the real problem the laptop and the admin can't open the bigger projects we work on. so there is the reality check.

iru69
2008-02-05, 08:06 PM
That would be a really interesting observation if it can be verified. Can you give a specific example, e.g. what's the hardware specs comparison (CPU/RAM/Video Card/OS) of a admin station "smoking" a workstation?


This bench mark test is fun, but I'm having a hard time translating it into real working behavior...

jstadler.79244
2008-02-05, 09:33 PM
Dell Precision T3400 Windows XP x64
Core2Duo E6850 3.0GHz, 4 GB Ram

17 opening and loading the custom template
5 creating the floors levels and grids.
30 creating a group of walls and doors
56 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
19 creating the exterior curtain wall
7 creating the sections
10 changing the curtain wall panel type
9 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
27 changing the levels height
66 update group to maintain level to level height
70 render a 3d view
169 export different views
4 save the project
492 total

chris.needham
2008-02-06, 11:06 AM
Here's my results running on my fairly lowly laptop, not too bad I thought.

Specs:
Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180
Memory (RAM): 1023 MB
CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz
CPU Speed: 1641.4 MHz
Sound card: Conexant HD Audio output
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 | NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 | NetMeeting driver | RDPDD Chained DD
Screen Resolution: 1440 X 900 - 32 bit
:
Network Adapters: Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport | Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
CD / DVD Drives: D: HL-DT-STDVDRAM GMA-4082N
:
COM Ports: COM3
LPT Ports:
Mouse: 5 Button Wheel Mouse Present
Hard Disks: C: 93.2GB
Hard Disks - Free: C: 11.4GB
USB Controllers: 5 host controllers.
Firewire (1394): 1 host controllers.
:
Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
Product Make: Satellite P100
:
AC Power Status: OnLine
BIOS Info: ATAT COMPATIBLE 031606 TOSQCI 6040000
Time Zone: New Zealand Standard Time
Battery: High
Motherboard: TOSHIBA Satellite P100
Modem: HDAUDIO Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP



21, opening and loading the custom template
14, creating the floors levels and grids.
55, creating a group of walls and doors
109, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
36, creating the exterior curtain wall
13, creating the sections
28, changing the curtain wall panel type
17, creating a perspective view
6, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
53, changing the levels height
131, update group to maintain level to level height
110, render a 3d view
329,export different views
10,save the project
932

TreyK
2008-02-11, 07:45 PM
Hi Crosseyed (aka brian.104662?)--

I'm interested in getting some additional details on the system that scored 456. When you have a few minutes, please email me at trey.klein@autodesk.com.

Thanks,

Trey Klein
Revit QA

TreyK
2008-02-11, 07:49 PM
Hi ijnicholas--

I'm also interested in getting some addition information about the system you tested that scored 465. I'd appreciate it if you could email me at trey.klein@autodesk.com.

Thanks!

Trey Klein
Revit QA

sbrown
2008-02-11, 10:19 PM
588 for the 64 bit 4gig ram higher end machine vs 504 for the admin integrated box.

Here are my results on the admin station.

6 opening and loading the custom template
7 creating the floors levels and grids.
28 creating a group of walls and doors
54 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
19 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
9 changing the curtain wall panel type
9 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
27 changing the levels height
64 update group to maintain level to level height
80 render a 3d view
184 export different views
5 save the project

504



System Specs

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name
System Manufacturer Dell Inc.
System Model OptiPlex 755
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11 GenuineIntel ~2992 Mhz
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11 GenuineIntel ~2992 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Dell Inc. A04, 11/5/2007
SMBIOS Version 2.5
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.36 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.77 GB
Page File X:\pagefile.sys


[Display]

Item Value
Name Intel(R) Q35 Express Chipset Family
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29B2&SUBSYS_02111028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&10
Adapter Type Intel(R) GMA 3100, Intel Corporation compatible
Adapter Description Intel(R) Q35 Express Chipset Family
Adapter RAM 384.00 MB (402,653,184 bytes)
Installed Drivers igxprd32.dll
Driver Version 6.14.10.4837
INF File oem10.inf (iBLB0 section)
Color Planes 1
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1600 x 900 x 60 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xFEA00000-0xFEA7FFFF
I/O Port 0x0000EC90-0x0000EC97
Memory Address 0xD0000000-0xDFFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xFEB00000-0xFEBFFFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 16
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\igxpmp32.sys (6.14.10.4837, 5.49 MB (5,761,728 bytes), 1/30/2008 2:39 PM)

Name Intel(R) Q35 Express Chipset Family
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29B3&SUBSYS_02111028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&11
Adapter Type Intel(R) GMA 3100, Intel Corporation compatible
Adapter Description Intel(R) Q35 Express Chipset Family
Adapter RAM 384.00 MB (402,653,184 bytes)
Installed Drivers igxprd32.dll
Driver Version 6.14.10.4837
INF File oem10.inf (iBLB1 section)
Color Planes Not Available
Color Table Entries Not Available
Resolution Not Available
Bits/Pixel Not Available
Memory Address 0xFEA80000-0xFEAFFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\igxpmp32.sys (6.14.10.4837, 5.49 MB (5,761,728 bytes), 1/30/2008 2:39 PM)


Here are the ones for the 64 bit

7 opening and loading the custom template
7 creating the floors levels and grids.
36 creating a group of walls and doors
69 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
24 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
12 changing the curtain wall panel type
11 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
34 changing the levels height
82 update group to maintain level to level height
80 render a 3d view
207 export different views
6 save the project

588

OS Name Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional x64 Edition
Version 5.2.3790 Service Pack 2, v.4045 Build 3790
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name
System Manufacturer Dell Inc.
System Model OptiPlex 745c
System Type x64-based PC
Processor EM64T Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6 GenuineIntel ~2394 Mhz
Processor EM64T Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6 GenuineIntel ~2394 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Dell Inc. 1.1.0, 3/29/2007
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.2.3790.2825 (srv03_sp2_rc.061103-1303)"
User Name
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 4,029.32 MB
Available Physical Memory 2.34 GB
Total Virtual Memory 7.62 GB
Available Virtual Memory 6.45 GB
Page File Space 3.93 GB
Page File X:\pagefile.sys

Name NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0295&SUBSYS_C6353842&REV_A1\4&FA8D773&0&0008
Adapter Type GeForce 7950 GT, NVIDIA compatible
Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT
Adapter RAM 512.00 MB (536,870,912 bytes)
Installed Drivers nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version 6.14.10.9371
INF File oem2.inf (nv4_NV3x section)
Color Planes 1
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1600 x 1200 x 60 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xDD000000-0xDFEFFFFF
Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xCFFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xDE000000-0xDEFFFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000DC80-0x0000DCFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 16
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\nv4_mini.sys (6.14.10.9371, 5.04 MB (5,283,200 bytes), 10/22/2006 3:22 PM)

iru69
2008-02-11, 10:51 PM
Scott, really no surprise there. It's kind of hard to sort out the details there among all the extraneous info, but a quick glance indicates that the admin machines have 3GHz Core2 processors while the workstations have 2.4 GHz Core2 processors. 2.4 GHz is only 80% of the speed of 3.0 GHz. Your "scores" pretty much match up with what others here are benchmarking, no?.

cjneedham
2008-02-21, 02:39 AM
You'll love this. Just tested benchmark on a client's new Mac Pro...

Mac Pro Dual Xeon X5482 @ 3.2Ghz
Nvidia GeForce 8800GT 512Mb
Win XP Pro SP2 (on bootcamp)
12Mb L2 cache, 2Gb 800Mhz RAM
7200RPM 320Gb HDD, 8Mb cache

12 opening and loading the custom template
8 creating the floors levels and grids.
29 creating a group of walls and doors
51 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
20 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
10 changing the curtain wall panel type
9 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
26 changing the levels height
60 update group to maintain level to level height
31 render a 3d view
157 export different views
5 save the project
--------------------------------------
430 Total

Nice, but again paying a premium which mostly only impacts on Rendering (8 processors) - it's a AU$7,200 machine. Looking to check if the jump from 2Gb to 4Gb RAM makes any further difference.

Henry D
2008-02-21, 12:57 PM
Hi Chris,

I love these Mac Pros...

I bought a similar Mac Pro 3 months ago, but it has 3.0 Ghz processors, so it was a bit slower
(454 secs). I posted the results in the "Running Revit in Virtual machines" thread.

I have more Ram, but I purchased the cheapest Video Card I could get with it. I am wondering why it's so expensive...I bought mine for $3,800 US , by the time put in 5 Gigs of Ram, plus some software, it was $4,300.

DoTheBIM
2008-02-22, 01:46 PM
This seems slow compared to other on here. I'm wondering what I can do to get it faster.

__17 opening and loading the custom template
__15 creating the floors levels and grids.
__70 creating a group of walls and doors
_152 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
__49 creating the exterior curtain wall
__19 creating the sections
__26 changing the curtain wall panel type
__21 creating a perspective view
___9 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
__72 changing the levels height
_175 update group to maintain level to level height
_118 render a 3d view
_414 export different views
__11 save the project
1168 Total

Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2047 MB
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz
CPU Speed: 2759.4 MHz
Display Adapters: ATI FireGL V3100 | ATI FireGL V3100 Secondary | NetMeeting driver | RDPDD Chained DD
Screen Resolution: 1600 X 1200 - 32 bit

Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
Product Make: OptiPlex GX620

TreyK
2008-02-22, 06:00 PM
Hi Chris--

Would you be so kind as to send me the Revit journal (if you're able to get it) created when you ran the AB300 test on your client's new Mac Pro?

Thanks!

Trey Klein
Revit QA
trey.klein@autodesk.com

cjneedham
2008-02-24, 07:46 AM
This seems slow compared to other on here. I'm wondering what I can do to get it faster.

Revit's performance seems to be based on a number of components within a computer system. Looking at the specs you have provided, I'd be guessing you'd get more out of a dual- or quad-core processor, but this has no direct impact on Revit. Rather, since Revit can only use one processor (unless rendering), by having two (or more) processors, you'll allow all your other applications to use the other processors available while Revit can have one all to itself.

How much video RAM is on your FireGL V3100? I'm guessing 128Mb (from doing a quick google of this card). This number itself is not directly proportional to Revit performance (there are many other posts that support this notion), but for myself, I'd be looking at something similar but with more memory. From what I've been able to ascertain from these forums, ATI FireGL and Nvidia chipsets are the two performance leaders.

I'm a big believer that the hard drive speed and cache can have a big impact on the benchmarking times. However, I don't have much hard data to prove this just yet, as most people aren't posting their hard drive specs. The more that do, however, the more definite I could be on this issue.

Apart from hardware, there is, of course the usual things to check such as 'How long has it been since you last formatted (or at least defragged) your hard drive? How full is your hard drive? What (if any) other apps are running at the same time as the benchmark?

As for me - I'm looking at a new machine. My Dell (Inspiron 9300 notebook) didn't score so well itself, but it is nearly 3 years old now.

Hope this helps some.

dfriesen
2008-03-04, 06:46 PM
Couple new machine in the office, aimed at getting renders done quick:

6 opening and loading the custom template
6 creating the floors levels and grids.
28 creating a group of walls and doors
54 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
19 creating the exterior curtain wall
7 creating the sections
10 changing the curtain wall panel type
9 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
27 changing the levels height
64 update group to maintain level to level height
44 render a 3d view
171 export different views
5 save the project
453 TOTAL

Core 2 Extreme QX9650 3.0, 4 Gb RAM, ATI FireGL V3400, Windows XP 64

We also ran a rendering comparison with our previous powerhouse machine, a Core2 Extreme x6800 2.93, 4GB RAM, ATI FireGL 3400, WinXP Pro. The old one took 12 hours, new one took just under 7 hours.

Wes Macaulay
2008-03-04, 08:28 PM
How much video RAM is on your FireGL V3100? I'm guessing 128Mb (from doing a quick google of this card). This number itself is not directly proportional to Revit performance (there are many other posts that support this notion), but for myself, I'd be looking at something similar but with more memory. From what I've been able to ascertain from these forums, ATI FireGL and Nvidia chipsets are the two performance leaders.
As it turns out, at this time Revit doesn't need more than 64Mb of video RAM because it doesn't use textures that intensively. If you're on 64bit Windows it won't matter, but 32bit Windows gets a memory hole if your card has lots of video memory.

Cheers

DoTheBIM
2008-03-04, 08:52 PM
Hmmmm. after comparing more closely it seems that going with a Core 2 processor of some sorts will give the most boost. After looking at other's numbers with similar processors as mine, this machine seems to be inline. This was interesting to learn.... I think I'm going to test my home machine with AMD single core and then finally swap in my X2 and retest to see how much difference there might be. Thanks for the benchmark tool. Most handy.

13 opening and loading the custom template
13 creating the floors levels and grids.
55 creating a group of walls and doors
121 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
37 creating the exterior curtain wall
15 creating the sections
20 changing the curtain wall panel type
18 creating a perspective view
6 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
55 changing the levels height
141 update group to maintain level to level height
125 render a 3d view
324 export different views
9 save the project
952

Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 1024 MB
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
CPU Speed: 1783.4 MHz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
Screen Resolution: 1920 X 1200 - 32 bit

cjneedham
2008-03-05, 03:57 AM
I know the official release of Revit 2009 is yet to occur, but it'd be really nice if we can get an updated journal that works with it (soon after it's released) - doing the same actions would be great! That way we could establish firm metrics that describe the difference in speed between 2008 and 2009.

Danny Polkinhorn
2008-03-11, 02:50 AM
6 opening and loading the custom template
5 creating the floors levels and grids.
27 creating a group of walls and doors
54 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
18 creating the exterior curtain wall
7 creating the sections
10 changing the curtain wall panel type
8 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
26 changing the levels height
64 update group to maintain level to level height
75 render a 3d view
172 export different views
4 save the project

480

Dell Optiplex 755
Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2 GB
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo
CPU Speed: 3.00GHZ
Display Adapters: ATI Radeon X1950 Pro
Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit

More details attached...

clog boy
2008-03-11, 11:05 AM
Couldn't be run to completion.
Results:

18 opening and loading the custom template
15 creating the floors levels and grids.
48 creating a group of walls and doors
80 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
33 creating the exterior curtain wall
17 creating the sections
16 changing the curtain wall panel type
15 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
40 changing the levels height
94 update group to maintain level to level height
90 render a 3d view
14 export different views

HP Workstation WX4100

Pray tell, how do I bypass that Interactive Mode message and run the test to completion? Press&Drag is on, at least in the Revit options bar, couldn't find it in the .ini file.

jes.149472
2008-03-11, 12:30 PM
I tried running the AUBench on Revit MEP 2008 but it doesn't work. Does anyone have a Benchmark for Revit MEP yet?

scott.neumann
2008-03-12, 03:27 AM
Not bad...

Results:
6 opening and loading the custom template
5 creating the floors levels and grids.
23 creating a group of walls and doors
45 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
16 creating the exterior curtain wall
6 creating the sections
8 changing the curtain wall panel type
7 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
22 changing the levels height
52 update group to maintain level to level height
58 render a 3d view
145 export different views
4 save the project

400


System Details:
Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2047 MB - 1066mhz
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz Overclocked to 3.6ghz
CPU Speed: 3598.4 MHz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit
Network Adapters: Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
CD / DVD Drives: D: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A
Hard Disks: C: 74.5GB | Z: 298.1GB
Hard Disks - Free: C: 43.4GB | Z: 78.3GB
Motherboard: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. P35-DS3L

clog boy
2008-03-12, 07:16 AM
Scott, I'm going to take notes of your system.

DoTheBIM
2008-03-12, 08:08 PM
Comparison of OpenGL toggle (1% Gain... not much IMO)

OpenGL OFF
16, opening and loading the custom template
10, creating the floors levels and grids.
69, creating a group of walls and doors
139, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
54, creating the exterior curtain wall
16, creating the sections
22, changing the curtain wall panel type
19, creating a perspective view
7, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
66, changing the levels height
163, update group to maintain level to level height
105, render a 3d view
375,export different views
11,save the project
1072,

OpenGL ON
16, opening and loading the custom template
11, creating the floors levels and grids.
70, creating a group of walls and doors
143, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
52, creating the exterior curtain wall
16, creating the sections
23, changing the curtain wall panel type
18, creating a perspective view
8, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
66, changing the levels height
164, update group to maintain level to level height
104, render a 3d view
359,export different views
11,save the project
1061,


Machine Specs
Windows: ,Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): ,1023 MB
CPU: ,Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
CPU Speed: ,2949.8 MHz
Display Adapters: ,ATI FireGL V3100 | ATI FireGL V3100 Secondary
Screen Resolution: ,1280 X 1024 - 32 bit
Manufacturer: ,Dell Inc.
Product Make: ,OptiPlex GX620

matt.ahl
2008-03-12, 09:04 PM
It appears that overall the Intel based PCs are outperforming equivalent AMD machines.

If you look at some of the general benchmarks in many cases it's just the reverse.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html

Anyone have any insight on this?

patricks
2008-03-12, 10:00 PM
oh boy a new benchmark test. :)

I'll try it out tomorrow on my work machine with dual dual-core Xeon processors. :mrgreen:

iru69
2008-03-12, 10:13 PM
First, what do you mean by "equivalent"? Comparing clock speeds between different chip lines doesn't really tell you all that much. You need to understand the different CPU models and features and you need to know their price point. How much speed can you get for equivalent dollars. Intel Core CPUs are arguably the fastest and best value currently available (at least in the mid to upper performance market).

Many of the benchmarks in those CPU Charts take advantage of multiple cores. This allows slower clocked quad core chips to out-pace faster clocked dual core chips. However, those charts still indicate that the Intel Quads are faster than the the AMD Phenoms on a clock for clock basis. But let's turn to price. The Phenom 9700 (2.4GHz) currently is ~$320 (if you can even find one) where the Core 2 Q6600 (2.4GHz) is ~$240, yet as the CPU Chart shows, the Q6600 is faster. And if you really want the fastest chip available, it's all Core 2.

Since Revit currently does not take advantage of more than one core (aside from rendering), Revit will generally perform best with the fastest core chip rather than slower multi-core chips.

It appears that overall the Intel based PCs are outperforming equivalent AMD machines.

If you look at some of the general benchmarks in many cases it's just the reverse.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html

Anyone have any insight on this?

jamie.casile80054
2008-03-12, 11:46 PM
aloha,
does anyone know if the Build affects anything?
thanks,
jamie

clog boy
2008-03-13, 08:02 AM
First, what do you mean by "equivalent"? Comparing clock speeds between different chip lines doesn't really tell you all that much. You need to understand the different CPU models and features and you need to know their price point. How much speed can you get for equivalent dollars. Intel Core CPUs are arguably the fastest and best value currently available (at least in the mid to upper performance market).


Irusun, I totally agree with you. The good old AMD single core Athlon 2400+ has a clock speed of 2000mhz and has the same benchmark results as a Pentium 2400mhz. Intel has caught up big time, eventho AMD was the first manufacturer to break most milestones (64 bit architecture, dual core, and I also believe they were the first to break the gigahertz border).

As with everything, it's not about the size, it's how you use it what matters. When I build a machine the processor speed is about the least of my concerns. I want a reliable brand, a good mainboard (the less redundant functions the better) and as much memory with the highest speed I can possibly cram on that mainboard.

I have yet to run the benchmark on my home PC but I can already tell you it runs on a AMD64 AthlonX2 4800+ processor, 2GB OCZ dualsided DDR2 RAM @800mhz (cas4) and a nVidia GeForce 7600GT. My Windows Experience Index scores 5.2 with every individual component within the 5 range... and all that for only 700 Euro on hardware!

Results tonight... probably... see if it beats my work machine. ;)


EDIT: has anyone run the benchmark with a SLI setup yet?

matt.ahl
2008-03-13, 05:14 PM
By equivalent, I meant just that. Two CPUs that perform almost identically on just about any generic benchmark. Personally I haven't used clock speed as a rating since, well, maybe the Intel 386/33 days. Price point isn't relivant.

Looking over more posts, my gut it telling me it's a simple config issue. I'll have to dig a bit to see where things differ on these Intel and AMD machines.

Thanks

iru69
2008-03-13, 07:56 PM
There is no mystery here. There's nothing to dig into. Currently, across the board, the Core 2 architecture is the fastest and best value in the medium to upper range of performance.

If it's still a mystery to you, by all means, dig away. That's often the best way to learn. :beer:

Looking over more posts, my gut it telling me it's a simple config issue. I'll have to dig a bit to see where things differ on these Intel and AMD machines.

patricks
2008-03-13, 09:55 PM
EDIT: has anyone run the benchmark with a SLI setup yet?

Wouldn't make much difference in Revit, since Revit doesn't utilize the graphics card as much as some other programs and games do.

clog boy
2008-03-15, 12:42 AM
I've run the benchmark on my home PC now.

12 opening and loading the custom template
10 creating the floors levels and grids.
50 creating a group of walls and doors
122 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
33 creating the exterior curtain wall
-21 creating the sections
16 changing the curtain wall panel type
14 creating a perspective view
5 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
51 changing the levels height
136 update group to maintain level to level height
92 render a 3d view
290 export different views
8 save the project

818 total (minus 21 for creating sections??)

BIOS settings: I turned on AMD NOS (5% extra power during peak loads) and set my memory timing to 'auto' instead of safe settings (my memory needs 1.95 to 2.1 volt, my DDR2 bus can only deliver 1.8 to 1.95). I also set PEG (PCI-e Enhanced Graphics) to fast.

Here's the shortlist for my PC again:
- AMD Athlon dualcore 2500 mhz
- 2GB RAM @800mhz
- nVidia GeForce 7600GT
- Windows Vista business

PC scores 5.2 on the Windows Experience Index. Anyone with Vista, can you give total run time and Experience Index, see if they're related?

radoss
2008-03-17, 01:48 PM
Very Cool tool. We will wait for new 2009...
I tested two times, one after another. The results are almost the same(1 sec difference).
13, opening and loading the custom template
14, creating the floors levels and grids.
42, creating a group of walls and doors
71, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
29, creating the exterior curtain wall
14, creating the sections
15, changing the curtain wall panel type
12, creating a perspective view
5, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
36, changing the levels height
85, update group to maintain level to level height
82, render a 3d view
233,export different views
7,save the project
------
total 658

Second time some operations was done faster but other slower and the final result is 1second more for the second run.

My PC is:
HP8710w Mobile Workstation
Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 2.40 GHz / 800 MHz, 4 MB L2
2048 MB DDR II 667 MHz 1 DIMM
120 GB 7,2 krpm
17" WUXGA WVA (1920 x 1200)
NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M 512 MB
Windows Vista Business 32bit
Now i waiting for XP and will post results on XP if they are any differences ;)

clog boy
2008-03-17, 02:56 PM
Finally got a decent run on my work machine - IT guys take notes ;)

12 opening and loading the custom template
13 creating the floors levels and grids.
69 creating a group of walls and doors
156 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
41 creating the exterior curtain wall
20 creating the sections
27 changing the curtain wall panel type
20 creating a perspective view
8 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
82 changing the levels height
198 update group to maintain level to level height
134 render a 3d view
428 export different views
8 save the project
1216

It actually performs about 50% worse than my AMD 2500mhz home machine.

Danny Polkinhorn
2008-03-18, 11:32 PM
This isn't going to help my cause for justifying Precisions, plus it raises more questions than answers.

8 opening and loading the custom template
6 creating the floors levels and grids.
36 creating a group of walls and doors
67 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
24 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
12 changing the curtain wall panel type
11 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
33 changing the levels height
81 update group to maintain level to level height
60 render a 3d view
216 export different views
6 save the project

573

Dell Precision 390 Core 2 Quad, 4 GB RAM w/o 3 GB switch (not really necessary for this)
Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 4 GB
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad
CPU Speed: 2.4 GHZ
Display Adapters: nVidia Quadro FX 550
Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit

Danny Polkinhorn
2008-03-18, 11:42 PM
7 opening and loading the custom template
9 creating the floors levels and grids.
36 creating a group of walls and doors
68 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
24 creating the exterior curtain wall
11 creating the sections
13 changing the curtain wall panel type
11 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
33 changing the levels height
81 update group to maintain level to level height
88 render a 3d view
220 export different views
7 save the project

612

Dell Precision 390 Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM
Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2 GB
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad
CPU Speed: 2.4 GHZ
Display Adapters: nVidia Quadro FX 3450
Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit

radoss
2008-03-19, 05:56 PM
Very Cool tool. We will wait for new 2009...
I tested two times, one after another. The results are almost the same(1 sec difference).
13, opening and loading the custom template
14, creating the floors levels and grids.
42, creating a group of walls and doors
71, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
29, creating the exterior curtain wall
14, creating the sections
15, changing the curtain wall panel type
12, creating a perspective view
5, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
36, changing the levels height
85, update group to maintain level to level height
82, render a 3d view
233,export different views
7,save the project
------
total 658

Second time some operations was done faster but other slower and the final result is 1second more for the second run.

My PC is:
HP8710w Mobile Workstation
Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 2.40 GHz / 800 MHz, 4 MB L2
2048 MB DDR II 667 MHz 1 DIMM
120 GB 7,2 krpm
17" WUXGA WVA (1920 x 1200)
NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M 512 MB
Windows Vista Business 32bit
Now i waiting for XP and will post results on XP if they are any differences ;)

I'm back with the XPsp2. PC is the same only OS is XPSP2 and version of the Revit is 20080101_2345. And the results are:
8, opening and loading the custom template
11, creating the floors levels and grids.
37, creating a group of walls and doors
67, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
25, creating the exterior curtain wall
12, creating the sections
13, changing the curtain wall panel type
11, creating a perspective view
5, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
33, changing the levels height
79, update group to maintain level to level height
86, render a 3d view
204,export different views
6,save the project
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Total 597:beer:

stuntmonkee
2008-03-20, 10:56 PM
Not bad...

Results:
6 opening and loading the custom template
5 creating the floors levels and grids.
23 creating a group of walls and doors
45 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
16 creating the exterior curtain wall
6 creating the sections
8 changing the curtain wall panel type
7 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
22 changing the levels height
52 update group to maintain level to level height
58 render a 3d view
145 export different views
4 save the project

400


System Details:
Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2047 MB - 1066mhz
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz Overclocked to 3.6ghz
CPU Speed: 3598.4 MHz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit
Network Adapters: Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
CD / DVD Drives: D: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A
Hard Disks: C: 74.5GB | Z: 298.1GB
Hard Disks - Free: C: 43.4GB | Z: 78.3GB
Motherboard: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. P35-DS3L

What is it that you have done to be the only one to get into the low 400's? I see everything you have here, but to be in the 500's or 600's even seems to be pretty good, but a 400 seems freak.

stuntmonkee
2008-03-20, 11:01 PM
Not bad...

Results:
6 opening and loading the custom template
5 creating the floors levels and grids.
23 creating a group of walls and doors
45 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
16 creating the exterior curtain wall
6 creating the sections
8 changing the curtain wall panel type
7 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
22 changing the levels height
52 update group to maintain level to level height
58 render a 3d view
145 export different views
4 save the project

400


System Details:
Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2047 MB - 1066mhz
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz Overclocked to 3.6ghz
CPU Speed: 3598.4 MHz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit
Network Adapters: Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
CD / DVD Drives: D: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A
Hard Disks: C: 74.5GB | Z: 298.1GB
Hard Disks - Free: C: 43.4GB | Z: 78.3GB
Motherboard: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. P35-DS3L

Oh, and who built the system. . . .I found a 480 mark that was a dell

scott.neumann
2008-03-21, 03:34 AM
I was suprised with the 400 as well. I have ran the test 3-4 times and I consistently get 400. I have the computer setup to dual boot to Windows XP 64bit which resulted in a slightly faster score of 390. Before overclocking the processor to 3.6ghz the score was around 500.

I built the computer myself for about $700.00 after rebates. I think the over clocking to 3.6ghz along with the high speed RAM makes all the difference.

stuntmonkee
2008-03-21, 08:41 PM
I was suprised with the 400 as well. I have ran the test 3-4 times and I consistently get 400. I have the computer setup to dual boot to Windows XP 64bit which resulted in a slightly faster score of 390. Before overclocking the processor to 3.6ghz the score was around 500.

I built the computer myself for about $700.00 after rebates. I think the over clocking to 3.6ghz along with the high speed RAM makes all the difference.

Interesting. . . .

Well, we are in the mix of building new systems here, and the goal is to get into the 400's low 500's

I'll let you know.

I placed several of our machines in an excel sheet if anyone is curious, still have some testing to finish, but its nearly complete.

Andre Baros
2008-03-31, 05:31 PM
Ok, I finally got around to benchmarking a few machines in the office and am impressed with the results. All of these are working machines with virus protection and lots of other stuff running to keep the tests real. For the newest machine, the Thinkpad T61p, I waited until it had a few weeks of junk on it before testing.

Machine 1, our old standard desktop workstation, being phased out.
Dell Precision 450, P4 Xeon 2.8 GHz, 3 GB RAM, 7200 RPM Hard Drive
Cost about 3k at time of purchase
21 opening and loading the custom template
18 creating the floors levels and grids.
83 creating a group of walls and doors
170 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
60 creating the exterior curtain wall
23 creating the sections
28 changing the curtain wall panel type
24 creating a perspective view
9 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
84 changing the levels height
202 update group to maintain level to level height
126 render a 3d view
435 export different views
12 save the project
1295 TOTAL

Machine 2, current standard workstation
Dell Precision 490 Core2Duo 5160, 3 GHz, 3 GB RAM, 7200 RPM Harddrive
Cost about 3k at time of purchase
8 opening and loading the custom template
9 creating the floors levels and grids.
32 creating a group of walls and doors
57 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
22 creating the exterior curtain wall
10 creating the sections
11 changing the curtain wall panel type
10 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
29 changing the levels height
67 update group to maintain level to level height
79 render a 3d view
178 export different views
6 save the project
522 TOTAL

Machine 3, Conference Room Computer (Goal was cheap and fast)
Dell Precision 390
Core2Extream X6100, 2.9GHz clock running at 4.3GHz, 3 GB RAM, 7200 RPM Hard Drive
Cost a bit more that 2k at the time of purchase
8 opening and loading the custom template
6 creating the floors levels and grids.
36 creating a group of walls and doors
56 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
23 creating the exterior curtain wall
8 creating the sections
10 changing the curtain wall panel type
8 creating a perspective view
3 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
28 changing the levels height
72 update group to maintain level to level height
75 render a 3d view
174 export different views
4 save the project
511 TOTAL

Machine 4, Thinkpad X60 Tablet, Shared for lectures, travel, and field work
Core Duo L2500, 1.83 GHz, 3GB RAM, 5400 RPM Hard Drive
Cost a bit more than 2k at the time of purchase.
23 opening and loading the custom template
16 creating the floors levels and grids.
100 creating a group of walls and doors
178 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
62 creating the exterior curtain wall
23 creating the sections
31 changing the curtain wall panel type
27 creating a perspective view
10 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
87 changing the levels height
210 update group to maintain level to level height
152 render a 3d view
512 export different views
15 save the project
1446 TOTAL

Machine 5, Future Workstation, We purchase 2 to test out and we're sold for Revit
Thinkpad T61p Core2Duo T9500, 2.6GHz, 3 GB RAM, 7200 RPM Hard Drive
Cost a hair less than 2k at the time of purchase including docking station.
8 opening and loading the custom template
8 creating the floors levels and grids.
33 creating a group of walls and doors
59 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
23 creating the exterior curtain wall
10 creating the sections
12 changing the curtain wall panel type
10 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
30 changing the levels height
71 update group to maintain level to level height
84 render a 3d view
185 export different views
6 save the project
543 TOTAL

Wes Macaulay
2008-03-31, 05:37 PM
Wow -- Andre, those are smokin' results from a notebook computer!

Andre Baros
2008-03-31, 07:29 PM
Oh, and I forgot to mention, the T61p cost us about 2grand, so for less money we got about the same power in a very portable package. Plus with the docking stations, we're driving our same 24" monitors as the main screen and have the benefit of a second screen for e-mail, Augi, web surfing etc.

stuntmonkee
2008-04-04, 10:41 PM
OptiPlex 755 Small Form Factor

Core 2 Duo E8400/3.0GHz
4.0GB,Non-ECC,800MHz DDR2 4x1GB
256MB ATI RADEON HD 2400 Pro

455 Mark

r.howarth
2008-04-11, 03:11 AM
I tried running this on Revit Structure 2008 on one of our machines, I copied the AuBench folder (which includes the subfolder for output) to the C: drive, checked the ini file was set right for clickndrag and then dragged the journal.txt file onto the icon on the desktop...

it went through doing stuff but then stopped and came up with the interactive mode error

13 opening and loading the custom template
8 creating the floors levels and grids.
45 creating a group of walls and doors
109 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall


is what the results file looks like, specs are:
AMD 64x2 4200
2gb DDR2 RAM
Ati X550 Vid Card
XP pro 32bit

truevis
2008-04-15, 02:01 AM
I was suprised with the 400 as well. I have ran the test 3-4 times and I consistently get 400. I have the computer setup to dual boot to Windows XP 64bit which resulted in a slightly faster score of 390. Before overclocking the processor to 3.6ghz the score was around 500.

I built the computer myself for about $700.00 after rebates. I think the over clocking to 3.6ghz along with the high speed RAM makes all the difference.

Would you please share with us how you built that machine?

scott.neumann
2008-04-15, 03:31 AM
I bought everything (Case, RAM, HD, Motherboard and CPU) at Newegg.com. I am hardly an expert on computer hardware but heard that the e8400 processors overclocked easily. I found a great article on overclocking the e8400 processor so I gave it a try and was suprised by the results. Here are the links:

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=717

System Details:
Windows: Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Memory (RAM): 2047 MB - 1066mhz
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz Overclocked to 3.6ghz
CPU Speed: 3598.4 MHz
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Screen Resolution: 1280 X 1024 - 32 bit
Network Adapters: Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
CD / DVD Drives: D: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A
Hard Disks: C: 74.5GB | Z: 298.1GB
Hard Disks - Free: C: 43.4GB | Z: 78.3GB
Motherboard: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. P35-DS3L

Let me know if you need anything else.

wwood.120646
2008-04-21, 11:33 PM
I seem to be having a problem running AB300. Near the end, during the "export different views" phase it stops, and gives me the following message:

"The journal file could not be run to completion. Utilize care in saving any work as the project may be in an unstable state."

Below this is a button that says:

"Enter interactive mode"


Is anyone familiar with how to fix this? Thanks.

dhurtubise
2008-04-21, 11:37 PM
Oh, and I forgot to mention, the T61p cost us about 2grand, so for less money we got about the same power in a very portable package. Plus with the docking stations, we're driving our same 24" monitors as the main screen and have the benefit of a second screen for e-mail, Augi, web surfing etc.

Can you post your journal file please? The one created by the benchmark. You can PM me for my email if you prefer

Andre Baros
2008-04-22, 12:26 PM
Out of curriousity, what can the journal file tell you?

TreyK
2008-04-22, 01:24 PM
I seem to be having a problem running AB300. Near the end, during the "export different views" phase it stops, and gives me the following message:

"The journal file could not be run to completion. Utilize care in saving any work as the project may be in an unstable state."

Below this is a button that says:

"Enter interactive mode"

Is anyone familiar with how to fix this? Thanks.

Hi Wwood--

Send me the journal that Revit makes when the AB300 test fails. I can probably tell whats happening...

Thanks,

Trey
trey.klein@autodesk.com

TreyK
2008-04-22, 05:02 PM
Hi Will--

Thanks for sending the journal.

Hi Will—

The test is failing when Revit begins to export views and sheets to the AUBench-Output folder and it can’t write the file. It gives this warning, and the test fails at that point because the warning isn’t supposed to happen in the journal:

MessageBox "Can't create C:\..\..\AUBench\AUBench-Output\3D View - 3D View 1.dwg or file is already in use. Please close file and press OK."

Please verify that:

1. The test is located on the root (C:) directory per the instructions.

2. The AUBench-Output folder is complete EMPTY (you can’t leave stuff there from a previous test).

3. None of the files that were in that folder from a previous test are open (by AutoCAD, for example).

I’m pretty sure this will clear it up for you!

Trey

wwood.120646
2008-04-22, 08:02 PM
Trey, thanks... it was #2. Here are my results:

9 opening and loading the custom template
10 creating the floors levels and grids.
37 creating a group of walls and doors
66 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
26 creating the exterior curtain wall
13 creating the sections
12 changing the curtain wall panel type
12 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
33 changing the levels height
78 update group to maintain level to level height
81 render a 3d view
205 export different views
7 save the project
593 TOTAL

System Spec - $2,400:
Dell Precision M4300 Laptop - WSXGA 15.4"
Core 2 Duo T7700 2.4 ghz
nVidia FX360M - 256 mb dedicated, 256 mb shared
4 gb RAM
80 gb 7200 RPM HD
XP Pro SP2, 32 bit

ron.sanpedro
2008-04-22, 10:28 PM
Trey,
any word on a RAC 2009 version of the Benchmark Journal? Or any thoughts about what is causing the old Journal to fail in 2009? Perhaps I can forward you a Journal from 2009 to troubleshoot?

Thanks!,
Gordon

TreyK
2008-04-23, 03:03 AM
Trey,
any word on a RAC 2009 version of the Benchmark Journal? Or any thoughts about what is causing the old Journal to fail in 2009? Perhaps I can forward you a Journal from 2009 to troubleshoot?

Thanks!,
Gordon

Hi Gordon--

Any word of this probably wouldn't come from Autodesk... we were not involved in the creation of the AB300 test in any way.

Unfortunately, some parts of Revit (AccuRender replaced by Mental Ray, for example) are different enough in the latest release that most R2008 journals will not run in R2009.

Thanks,

Trey

ijnicholas
2008-04-23, 03:20 PM
Anyone is working on the journal file for 2009?
Thanks.

dhurtubise
2008-04-23, 03:43 PM
Want me to put another one together?

ron.sanpedro
2008-04-23, 04:35 PM
Hi Gordon--

Any word of this probably wouldn't come from Autodesk... we were not involved in the creation of the AB300 test in any way.

Unfortunately, some parts of Revit (AccuRender replaced by Mental Ray, for example) are different enough in the latest release that most R2008 journals will not run in R2009.

Thanks,

Trey

But given that Phil does work for Autodesk, and the benchmark would be a GREAT tool for Autodesk to start getting some meaningful metrics with, I would hope that Autodesk would revise the Journal, and ideally ship it as part of the 2009 install long about SP1. I think it would be in Autodesk's best interest to get as much useful and accurate data as possible.
Just a thought, or hope ;)

best,
Gordon

cjneedham
2008-04-24, 06:14 AM
Want me to put another one together?

Daniel,

Yes, please! It would be most useful.

Rustle
2008-04-25, 03:16 AM
Does this benchmark actually show us anything about graphics cards?

Tell me if I am wrong but the graphics card is just recieving output and does not effect performance in this way of measuring it. The display could be choppy but the processor could be sailing away at a task. We tried using nVidia QuadroFX 540 but they could not handle larger models in 3D views when panning and zooming. The QuadroFX 3500 work great. When run this benchmark I only get 1 sec faster on the 3500 for each task.

Again, I don't think this benchmark tells us anything about display adapter performance.

cjneedham
2008-04-25, 11:01 AM
I'd like to add some feedback beyond quoting figures from the benchmark. I've run this test now probably dozens of times, and several on single systems, each time changing variables to establish the observed differences. I figure this is indicative of how Revit is affected by such changes. I think that from these results, if we are to develop a new benchmark (or Autodesk, if they'd like to get involved), the results of the previous (2008) benchmark could inform the content for the next.

Specifically, I noticed on several occasions that altering the RAM on each machine, between 2 & 4Gb made NO difference to the benchmark score. I realise that in actual fact, it's more like an effective comparison between 2 & 3Gb, due to 32-bit system limitations.

Similarly results were NO different or only negligibily different when altering the size of the page file swap space (Virtual memory), which should typically be maxed at twice the physical memory.

Even (admittedly I only tested this particular condition on one machine), moving the page file to another drive made no difference to the benchmark score.

Now all of these three items in particular, I had been led to believe provided performance increases for Revit, but the benchmark results do not show this. What I surmise is exactly that - the benchmark doesn't disprove that these do offer performance increases, but rather that perhaps they don't say anything - at least not something definitive.

I can suggest the following points as possibilities, and I'd invite comments and feedback from others - even if that is to disprove these theories. Firstly, I suggest that either the project used in the benchmark is simply not demanding enough in the specific activities it needs to, to really test the effectiveness of RAM, or that RAM contributes to the performance more as 'torque' than as raw power, or speed, showing its real value in dealing with larger files or more data.

I'd suggest that perhaps the same applies for the Virtual Memory allocation and location.

If others have observed similar results, I'd nominate that any new benchmark test file could address this (and perhaps other defined issues, such as graphic performance, as per Russell's previous post). What I'd like to see is continued improvement on the benchmark test - not just to try and convert the previous one, but to provide ever greater, more useful and specific results.

Rustle
2008-04-25, 05:07 PM
I agree though it would be nice to also have an upgraded version of the existing one just to compare performance between releases 2009 to 2008. Autodesk should be interested in this so we can get some hard numbers to vaildate / disprove users experiences with 2009. We will have to look at the numbers for different tasks instead of the total as the rendering times can not be directly compared.

ron.sanpedro
2008-04-25, 08:43 PM
My experience has been that the amount of ram and swap drive space is less about speed, and more about stability, and then mostly about stability in a large model. Thus the benchmark will show no real performance boost between 2G and 4G of ram, nor will a smaller model show the difference. You will only see the difference in daily use of a very large model, or in certain memory intensive tasks like printing, exporting, auditing or upgrading. And for the most part, the difference will be 2G crashes, and 4G doesn't. But 4G will still be slow.

On the graphics card side, my understanding is that Revit only uses 32M or 64M of the graphics ram. Then again, Windows doesn't use that ram much, nor does AutoCAD, or even 3DS Max for most things. Mostly it is intended to hold material images to apply to surfaces quickly in real time rendering. ie games. Perhaps the programmers could find a way to use more of it, or perhaps that really is the only use. That said, the faster GPU & RAMDAC of a higher end card will help performance, but again, mostly on larger models. or perhaps more correctly, more noticable on larger models. So for the moment what we really want is the absolute fastes GPU and RAMDAC paired with only 128M of graphics RAM. No one makes that. I guess it would be hard to charge a lot of money for a fast GPU and RAMDAC and a pittance of RAM, even if that really is the best bang for the buck.
And by the way, in 32bit windows with the 3G switch, 512M of graphics ram can be a problem. That is one of the benifits of 64bit, no stability problems from too much graphics ram. The ram is still wasted, but at least you have maximum system ram available to apps without stability issues.

The one thing that the benchmark did show unequivocally is that a Core2 is MUCH better than a P4.

In the end, I think it would be great if Autodesk expanded on the Benchmark to get something that builds a 200M file, with links, uses shadows, hammers the graphics card, ram, virtual memory and everything else, and takes a few hours to run. Then we would have a benchmark that would actually test the full range of metrics we need to see, and give us enough data to really see the differences.

And lest we forget, the main reason for the benchmark was to prove that a Mac & Bootcamp/Parallels/VMWare gave Windows a run for its money. And it does that very nicely. All this other stuff is abusing the tool a wee bit.

But we did test that 540, just on a model too small to show the weaknesses. Should have have thrown that card on a TN machine!

best,
Gordon

Andre Baros
2008-04-26, 03:24 AM
One factor which graphics cards (video RAM) influence in Revit is the number of windows you can have open at one time before you take a performance hit. Hard to test but noticable in real day to day work.

iru69
2008-04-26, 06:19 AM
Are you sure about that? My understanding is that open window views are stored in regular system RAM, not in the video card's RAM. The video card's RAM would be a strange place to be storing window views.

One factor which graphics cards (video RAM) influence in Revit is the number of windows you can have open at one time before you take a performance hit.

Andre Baros
2008-04-26, 03:55 PM
No, I'm not sure of that, it was simply my understanding based on experience with a few machines... nothing scientific.

iru69
2008-04-26, 11:00 PM
I'm not sure either, but there are a few things to note:

If you look at Revit memory usage, you'll notice that every time you open/close a window, memory usage goes up/down by a fairly consistent number.

The higher your screen resolution, the higher memory usage goes up/down.

The amount of memory usage is in the ball park of what you'd think it would be for each view (resolution * color bit depth / 8 bits = bytes). The amount of memory usage is not affected by the contents of the window (an empty view versus a 3D view with a building in it will use the same amount of memory).

DoTheBIM
2008-07-29, 02:41 AM
Anyone is working on the journal file for 2009?
Thanks. I started this in between things... just so I could understand journal files a little better. Attached is what I got so far. It works on my machines, but I'm not positive it will work on others. Give it a try, if it doesn't work send me your journal file created (before you click the "enter interactive mode" button) from running this journal and I'll see if I can tweak my file or recommend a fix.

You must have the original AUBench folder set up on your c:\ and I think you have to upgrade the rte & rfa files in it first (save as 2009 version).
Put the attached file in the aubench folder and drag & drop the file onto Revit2009 icon.I got 7 of 14 tests converted... (or 1526 of 2602 lines) It is a tedious process... and we're ramping up for phasing in Revit for all of our user, so I'm not sure how much time I'll get in the near future to continue this effort... But hey it's a start. Enjoy.

The problem with most of the original file is a lot of the dialog names are different. There are other differences but I see a lot to the dialogs changed names in the 2009 journal files.

Jason Grant
2008-07-29, 12:32 PM
Finally was able to run on our machines but I am interested in trying out something similar in 2009.

8 opening and loading the custom template
7 creating the floors levels and grids.
32 creating a group of walls and doors
61 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
22 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
11 changing the curtain wall panel type
10 creating a perspective view
4 changing the curtain wall panel pleat
30 changing the levels height
74 update group to maintain level to level height
48 render a 3d view
179 export different views
6 save the project

Total 501

Dell Precision 490
Windows XP Service Pack 3
3GB Switch
Intel Xeon CPU (4) Core 2.66GHz
4GB RAM
Paging File 12GB
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500 - 256MB

ededios
2008-07-29, 04:41 PM
. . . . Give it a try, if it doesn't work . . .
Did get the journal error. I've attached my journal file. :(

Thanks a lot!!

DoTheBIM
2008-07-29, 05:01 PM
Did get the journal error. I've attached my journal file. :(

Thanks a lot!!Sorry about that. Must of zipped before my final save. I uploaded the new file in place of the original.

Jason Grant
2008-07-29, 05:55 PM
Other than David Kingham's interoffice test on a 185MB file, does anyone see this AUBench as a pointless benchmark? I want to know how different machines work when using a realworld size model of 150MB to 200MB minimum. The benchmark file ends up being 5MB, using only 500MB of RAM during the process. Therefore, the different speeds seem to vary based on just the processor & 64bit OS.

Any thoughts how we can make a really difficult benchmark even if I need to run it all night?

I uploaded my analysis of all of the previous benchmarks that have been done on this post.

ron.sanpedro
2008-07-31, 10:34 PM
Other than David Kingham's interoffice test on a 185MB file, does anyone see this AUBench as a pointless benchmark? I want to know how different machines work when using a realworld size model of 150MB to 200MB minimum. The benchmark file ends up being 5MB, using only 500MB of RAM during the process. Therefore, the different speeds seem to vary based on just the processor & 64bit OS.

Any thoughts how we can make a really difficult benchmark even if I need to run it all night?

I uploaded my analysis of all of the previous benchmarks that have been done on this post.

A "real" benchmark would be nice, but that would require some sort of support from Autodesk, which just ain't gonna happen I think, at least this lets you do some sort of comparison. For example, I think the 2008 flavor of the benchmark made it abundantly clear that no machine based on P4 architecture was viable for Revit.
One thought on making this more realistic is perhaps the template could include 15 or 20 copies of the "building" arrayed about, and a few hundred views pre cut, per haps a linked file or two, maybe a slew of worksets; that way, when the benchmark starts, it starts from an already full model. The actual "work" done would be the same, but the model would start at a more realistic point for comparison. And the delta between a "fast' machine and a "slow" one might be more obvious.

Gordon

Phil Read
2008-09-13, 03:22 PM
Here's the updated file for Revit 2009. Journal file is here:

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=71482&highlight=aubench&page=2

Important: Don't compare the results from the AUBench2008 to AUBench2009. The tasks are all similar - but not identical.

All the best -

Phil

My results:

Computer:

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz

RAM:
Size: 2 GB
Type: DDR2 SDRAM
Speed: 667 MHz

GeForce 8600M GT:
VRAM (Total): 256 MB

Color LCD:
Display Type: 17" LCD
Resolution: 1920 x 1200

Parallels:

12 opening and loading the custom template
12 creating the floors levels and grids.
46 creating a group of walls and doors
94 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
39 creating the exterior curtain wall
16 creating the sections
22 changing the curtain wall panel type
219 create 3d view and render
2 export all views
462 Total Time (Seconds)

VMWare:

18 opening and loading the custom template
14 creating the floors levels and grids.
47 creating a group of walls and doors
92 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
41 creating the exterior curtain wall
20 creating the sections
23 changing the curtain wall panel type
225 create 3d view and render
3 export all views
483 Total Time (Seconds)

XP Pro (via Bootcamp):

11 opening and loading the custom template
7 creating the floors levels and grids.
33 creating a group of walls and doors
76 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
28 creating the exterior curtain wall
10 creating the sections
16 changing the curtain wall panel type
106 create 3d view and render
2 export all views
289Total Time (Seconds)

dan.dankert
2008-09-17, 09:13 PM
First Thanks Phil for your work on this!

Here are current Revit Workstations:

Computer:
Model Name: WhiteBOX
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850
Processor Speed: 3.0 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 8 GB
Bus Speed: 1333 MHz

RAM:
Size: 8 GB (4x2GB)
Type: DDR2 SDRAM
Speed: 1066 MHz

Diamond ATI Radeon HD 4850:
VRAM (Total): 512 MB

Color LCD:
Display Type: 22" LCD
Resolution: 1680 x 1050

Vista Business SP1 x64


13 opening and loading the custom template
12 creating the floors levels and grids.
26 creating a group of walls and doors
50 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
28 creating the exterior curtain wall
8 creating the sections
13 changing the curtain wall panel type
81 create 3d view and render
2 export all views
232 Total Time (Seconds)

Not bad at all!
Dan

david.robertson
2008-10-30, 10:12 AM
Here's the updated file for Revit 2009. Journal file is here:

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=71482&highlight=aubench&page=2

Important: Don't compare the results from the AUBench2008 to AUBench2009. The tasks are all similar - but not identical.

All the best -

Phil


I can't see it on that link, am I missing something?

Cheers

Davie

BMcCallum
2008-10-30, 09:05 PM
Computer:

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz

RAM:
Size: 4 GB
Type: DDR3
Speed: 1067 MHz

Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT
VRAM (Total): 512 MB

Color LCD:
Display Type: 15.4" LCD
Resolution: 1440 x 900

My Results:

Parallels:
8 opening and loading the custom template
9 creating the floors levels and grids.
35 creating a group of walls and doors
75 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
29 creating the exterior curtain wall
11 creating the sections
16 changing the curtain wall panel type
164 create 3d view and render
2 export all views

341 Total Time (Seconds)

adam.wise
2008-12-01, 10:23 PM
Computer:
Model Name: MacPro
Processor Name: Intel Xeon X54
Processor Speed: 3.0 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache: 12 MB
Bus Speed: 1600 MHz

RAM:
Size: 10 GB
Type: DDR2 SDRAM
Speed: 667 MHz

GeForce 8800 GT:
VRAM (Total): 512 MB

Color LCD:
Display Type: 22" LCD
Resolution: 1680 x 1050

OS:
Windows Vista Ultimate through Bootcamp

5 opening and loading the custom template
7 creating the floors levels and grids.
24 creating a group of walls and doors
49 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
20 creating the exterior curtain wall
9 creating the sections
12 changing the curtain wall panel type
117 create 3d view and render
2 export all views

245 Total

Fernal
2011-01-27, 04:41 PM
AUBenchmark v01.18.2011 run @ 27/1/2011 11:46:42

10, opening and loading the custom template
14, creating the floors levels and grids
43, creating a group of walls and doors
79, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
35, creating the exterior curtain wall
18, creating the sections
18, changing the curtain wall panel type
69, create 3d view and render
53, export all views
270, TOTAL w/o Render
339, TOTAL

MACHINE SPEC:

CPU: Processador Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2,33GHz
Number of Processors: 1

Total Physical Memory: 3 GB
BANK0: MHz
BANK1: MHz

Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT
Graphics RAM: 512 MB
Driver version: 6.14.12.6099

Fernal
2011-01-27, 04:48 PM
Windows XP Professional 32bits

mbeham
2011-02-17, 06:56 PM
What Benchmark file did you use for 2011?

So What
2012-02-18, 03:03 AM
How to run the benchmark test, please?