Sheet numbers for Legends

[thomasf]

I have succesful created a legend for my window types however, when I put it on a sheet I can not give the legend a drawing number. Does anybody now how I can number this view; it looks really sill to have a circle with no number in it.

[papurajx]

Either you use a dummy text for the View number or don't show the view title in the sheet.

[Maximillian]

Or ask the factory to put the numbering back in with revit 2009. What is the point of having a legend that you cant reference by number?

[Scott D Davis]

A legend can go on multiple sheets. What if the legend needs to be 1 on one sheet, and 2 on another?

[Maximillian]

A legend can go on multiple sheets. What if the legend needs to be 1 on one sheet, and 2 on another?


If the numbers are on there I can say "see 1/A1". or see "1/A2" in my notes at least. I know that is kind of non-Revit, but not having a number is not a solution in my opinion.

A solution would be to list all of the placed legend views in the callout/detail list, so so I can refer to them with a bubble or callout.

For example, how are we supposed to do wall/roof/floor assembly legends? I have a ton of wall legends that I can not refer to now....and I refuse to add a number to the legend manually because I am boycotting the feature removal :-)

[thomasf]

A legend can go on multiple sheets. What if the legend needs to be 1 on one sheet, and 2 on another?

Exactly, I should be able to type in a number in the bubble, not have an uneditable ?

[archjake]

A legend can go on multiple sheets. What if the legend needs to be 1 on one sheet, and 2 on another?

so what? It worked that way pre 9.1 and 2008.
I beleive that you're familiar with the National Cad Standards where ALL views are numbered with regard to the ABCD, 12345 grid on the title blocks.
It looks like someone forgot something if they don't have a number.
When you have a contractor on the phone its nice to say "look at the legend on sheet A1.0" And if he claims that he can't find it say its detail "D5" If he still can't find it you point out the grid system and say go to D and 5 (like battle ship) and HIT he finds it.

I put in my service request when this was changed. I recommend others do the same. To not have the option to number legends is BS!

[Steve_Stafford]

You'll end up with one legend view per sheet if they do. Didn't Revit start duplicating the legends originally as you added a legend to additional sheets? If I recall correctly that behavior was uniformly booed and it went to no sheet number. Fwiw, many firms that I've met do not number legends, the title says it all and if a contractor can't read the title, the "grid" ain't gonna help much either. :smile:

[Maximillian]

What about wall / roof / floor / assembly legends.

I make one legend per wall type. The advantage of this is:
1) I can just add a detail bubble to refer to the wall type in the legend ( not anymore )
2) I keep walls and the legends coordinated. ( not anymore )

Any other revit way to do that? besides detail lines.

[mlgatzke]

The problem (as I see it) is, how would Revit track and manage view numbers on multiple sheets (of the same view)? IMO, If you're willing to "fake" Revit by just typing the view information into your notes, why not just create your own fake View Title symbol and complete the "faking" process? Why should Revit try to keep track of something that you are only going to "fake" into your notes anyway? Sorry, I don't understand the worth of it.

[Maximillian]

The problem (as I see it) is, how would Revit track and manage view numbers on multiple sheets (of the same view)? IMO, If you're willing to "fake" Revit by just typing the view information into your notes, why not just create your own fake View Title symbol and complete the "faking" process? Why should Revit try to keep track of something that you are only going to "fake" into your notes anyway? Sorry, I don't understand the worth of it.


First of all i dont want to deal with a fake view title. That would be another level of de-coordination to me.


If there is the same legend on multiple sheets, When you go to place a detail and select the legend as the referring view you would see:

"2x4 stud wall" 1/A1
"2x4 stud wall" 5/A2
ect.....

There has got to be a better solution than no number.

[Scott D Davis]

If a legend is on a sheet, does it need a callout? Do we need to refer to it? IMO, no, because its a legend of things on that sheet. Thats why we can put the same legend on multiple sheets. I wouldn't put a note on sheet A1 that says "refer legend sheet A2", I would just add the legend to sheet A1 also.

[Maximillian]

I'm not sure I could fit a legend on all of the sheets that have a reference to them. Also what about wall assembly legends? If I have 30 standard wall types Im not going to list them all .

In fact there are many times when I do not have to duplicate legends. Just one.

I would love to hear about some possible solutions that we could suggest to the factory, that we havent thought of yet, even if its off the wall....pun intended.

[Scott D Davis]

30 different wall types in a project? Wow thats alot. Well, my Legend would simply be a graphic, that shows that this hatch or pattern equals that wall. Then the note next to that would refer to a detail sheet where the wall assembly would be identified in detail format.

[Maximillian]

30 because I have (had) a standard assemblies page that I used for all projects.

[thomasf]

Maybe there's a better to way to do what I'm trying to accomplish. We use a Windows Type Page and a Doors Type Page that shows an elevation view of each door & window. Legends is the only way I have found to get them all on one view; before we tried the legnd approach we were duplicating views of the elevations and cropping around each window. This wasn't aceptable because it showed the exterior detialing around the window too.

In our case it would only be on one sheet. Is there another way to create Door & Window Type views?

My solution to Autodesk is to make the number editable; it can be dummy text for all I care!