Wall thickness

[bengo]

Hi everyone.
How can I extract the wall thickness to put it in the door schedule.
Thanks

[arqt49]

You have the "Wall Thickness" field in the door schedule available fields.
Just Add it :?

[Justin Marchiel]

i must be missing something cause i dont think that a door can extract a wall thickness. a wall schedule could do this, but that is not what you are asking.

In my experience the door doesn't know anything about what it is hosted in. this is something that i wanted for awhile, because then i could create a formula for door frame types (ie when in a 2x4 wall use a type 5 frame, etc).

Hopefully i am wrong.

Justin

[bengo]

As far as I can see, you are right Justin. I tried adding a parameter with the host thikness. I had the message saying you can not overconstraint the drawing.

If anyone have a way to do it, it would be apprieciated.

[Justin Marchiel]

i think it is a basic problem with the program coding that the hosted object can't report any information from the host object.

Would be great to see in future release, but until then you might need to add some manual parameters to get the desired results.

Justin

[mthurnauer]

Am I missing something? The program comes with a door type that puts trim on either side of the wall regardless of how thick it is. So, I have made a door type that has a frame that is has a fixed dimension on either side of the wall that makes the frame protrude 1/2" on either side of the wall. So, the frame matches whatever the wall thickness is. Isn't this what you want? And if the schedule can report the wall thickness it seems like you have all of the needed functionality.

[gbarley]

Hi Guys,
Im new to this forum stuff but need to schedule this information too.
As far as I understand you cannot pull the wall thickness information into the door schedule so this method will not work.
Surley this is such an obvious request that Autodesk should get themselves into gear and help out? If Revit will model the frame to suit the wall thickness you should be able to extract this information to the schedule!

I have been offered a solution that requires a new door type with frame depth that relates to the thickness of the wall you want to put it into although I feel that this goes against everything Revit stands for.

Come back ADT all is forgiven!

[tomnewsom]

Objects cannot report parameters of their hosts. This should be possible, given the database at the heart of Revit, but it has not been implemented.

[rkitect]

You can create a wall schedule with wall width reported, but not a door schedule.

[rkitect]

So, the frame matches whatever the wall thickness is. Isn't this what you want? \

But try adding a dimension with a parameter attached to it to those frames. You'll get the same overconstrained error that bengo is receiving. This is because there is no "Listening" parameter that transports a parameter instead of defining a parameter.

Also, arqt, if you have a Wall Thickness parameter in your fields available, please share how you got it there. :)

[arqt49]

I am sorry.
I was dreaming while awake :S
The only way out is a database way.
Not simple and not inside revit.
You can query he HostId of the door (the wall); then it's wall's Typeid, and finally you get the width of it (walltypes).
But you can only report it in a spreadsheet.
Rkitect, this is not a solution, either, since it is very complicated.
I did door's wall thickness it in last projects with a dumb parameter.
Maybe Revit 2010 will do the trick.

[arqt49]

Carl, it took me some time to get back to the wall thickness of doors.
My solution is using a database - in this case openoffice base, but you can do the same in ms access.
And because a picture is better than 1k words, take a look at the attahed jpeg og the query.