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Michael.c
2008-02-15, 04:25 AM
A couple of things I have recently discovered:
You know how SLOW it is, panning around a floor plan (by holding the mouse button down and dragging). It's so bad that the image completely disappears, and re-appears 10 seconds later, hopefully in the spot where you want it. If not you haver to go through the same tedious precess again.
Well, this whole "pan-by-dragging" process appears to be much much quicker in a 3D view.
So here's the tip:
Go to you 3D view, then go to the dynamic view (F8) and orientate the view to top. It effectivly gives you a plan view. Now you can pan around a plan much quicker. Bingo!

And the other tip, if you orientate the 3d view to an elevation, you can effectivly draw 3D pipes and ducts from a section view, something you can't do from a normal section.

Hope it helps....

mjdanowski
2008-02-19, 08:25 PM
use a coordination view also. Mechanical and electrical discipline views have to calculate hidden lines and the what not, and as such are extremely slow. I either work in a separate views (which has other advantages) or turn the disciplines onto electrical and mechanical before I need to print.

Mcgregage
2008-02-27, 03:48 AM
Indeed, I am very happy about the addition of the cube, in the up coming release of mep 2009. If you have not seen or heard about this check out insidethesystem.com - Kyle B. has posted a video that got my blood pumping a little fast, it will save alot of time. Now if only I can convince Architects not to give me a 300 mb model that is useless. uh oh haha.

Michael.c
2008-03-06, 12:19 AM
Indeed, I am very happy about the addition of the cube, in the up coming release of mep 2009. If you have not seen or heard about this check out insidethesystem.com - Kyle B. has posted a video that got my blood pumping a little fast, it will save alot of time. Now if only I can convince Architects not to give me a 300 mb model that is useless. uh oh haha.



www.insidethesystem.com takes me nowhere.
Is that link correct?

Scott D Davis
2008-03-06, 01:05 AM
http://inside-the-system.typepad.com/

Michael.c
2008-03-17, 03:54 AM
http://inside-the-system.typepad.com/

Hmmm! That's better!
Thanks.....

Joe Fields
2008-03-18, 08:57 PM
Another thing that helps is unloading uneeded worksets. I've gotten into a habit of unloading all the electrical worksets except maybe lighting to streamline opening and saving. You just have to load them back in before you print if there are electrical items on your plans.

Also, remove uneeded sections, plans and 3D views as they can really bog things down.

Stevelessoway
2008-03-26, 08:01 PM
Can we discuss Computer Specs?

I'm working on a machine with a:

Pentium D 3.25GHz
3.25Gb RAM
ATI X300.

I'm finding Revit almost impossible to use, panning and zooming is a nightmare. Every duct connection I make is a 10 second Wait. Progress is painfully slow.I've had a few crashes while trying to make a connection or when changing the size of an already connected duct. I'm working with a model that is only about 10mb, a small two story building.

I realize the Video Card needs an upgrade (ordered an ATI Fire GL 3700), but is it really the remedy to my issues? What are you all using and what is your performance like in Zooming, panning, making connections and just general use.


Thanks for any help.

Michael.c
2008-03-28, 02:32 AM
Can we discuss Computer Specs?

I'm working on a machine with a:

Pentium D 3.25GHz
3.25Gb RAM
ATI X300.

I'm finding Revit almost impossible to use, panning and zooming is a nightmare. Every duct connection I make is a 10 second Wait. Progress is painfully slow.I've had a few crashes while trying to make a connection or when changing the size of an already connected duct. I'm working with a model that is only about 10mb, a small two story building.

I realize the Video Card needs an upgrade (ordered an ATI Fire GL 3700), but is it really the remedy to my issues? What are you all using and what is your performance like in Zooming, panning, making connections and just general use.


Thanks for any help.

Intel(R) Core 2 CPU
6700 @ 2.66GHz
2.66GHz, 3.37 GB of RAM

(Whatever all that means)

And yes, it is painfully slow, and yes, it crashes from time to time.
Luckily though, it doesn't seem to slow down Internet Explorer, so for the most part I find myself surfing the net while waiting for the screen to regenerate.
Or you could try bringing a good book to work, perhaps?

mjdanowski
2008-03-28, 12:37 PM
Does anyone know if Vista x64 speeds things up a bit? (dare I ask)

mlmiller1
2008-04-23, 08:06 AM
Vista x64 runs fine...but not any faster then XP

XP
C2d @3.2
4GB ddr2 800
8800gts 320MB

Vista x64
Phenom @ 2.3
8GB ddr2 1066
fireGLv3600 256MB

sgermano
2008-05-05, 11:29 PM
Im using XP service pack 2
AMD 64 X2 Dual Core
2.19 GHz, 3 G's Ram
Nvidea 8800GT oc2 -512MBGDDR3

And yes its redicuosly slow and does still crash. 2009 sped things up slightly, but still its way to slow to pan ect.

A better question may be- Does anyone have a system that is running Revit smoothly and not having problems? Or is everyone in the same boat here? Is Does Revit need to be tweaked on Autodesk's end to run smoother for current hardware specs??

theradus
2008-05-06, 10:53 PM
I found easier to work on sections (not drawing sections), work floor by floor or branch by branch and don’t connect the piping (in my case) to the main riser till the end. Indeed when you add another connection, Revit is checking and calculating everything that is connected to that particular pipe (duct).
For example a sink has connected cold water pipework, hot water pipework and drainage. Imagine having 4 floors, 10 sinks per floor and you have to modify a sink drainage. Just for that drainage Revit is going all over the building to check and calculate and regenerate the layout on the cold water circuit, hot water and drainage even if the sink you modify has no cold or hot water, but drainage being connected to another sink and that sink has cold or hot water and this way you have the whole drawing connected, at least this is the way I believe is doing, otherwise I don’t find a better explanation.

Rustle
2008-05-08, 04:42 AM
The main way to speed Revit up is a faster / newer processor.

sgermano
2008-05-08, 05:42 PM
The main way to speed Revit up is a faster / newer processor.

A dual core medium of the line processor is all most companies are going to invest. Autodesk cant expect firms of large sizes to purchase gaming rigs to run their software for hundreds of employees. Its just not going to happen, way too much hardware cost for a company to pony up on large scales.

I've changed our Revit workflow to the following method which really helped us out.
1- Each user creates 2 3d views- activate "3d section box" option for each- See attached tutorial on how to do this
2- Once the user has created these 3d sections of the area they work in they orientate one view to a 'top' down plan view of the 3d section model.
3- The other 3d view is for 3d rotating and viewing purposes.
4- Once a area is modeled the user than goes to the plan view to add annotation, dimensions, ect.

This eliminates the need to be in a plan view except for adding annotations ect. The users spend 80% of their time modeling anyway and panning and zooming in a 3d view is much quicker than a plan view as stated earlier in this thread. This has raised productivity tremendously among our users.

Hope this helps everyone.

ldcadd127
2008-05-15, 11:18 PM
Oh no, he didn't mention Vista!!! Kidding....I'm looking to see if it will work also, but I'm thinking it will involve all of the trouble with Vista period. I've chosen to stick with XP as the problems are minimized to <oh God, another long regen> rather than a complete meltdown when trying to work with Vista. But as mentioned, that was the 32-bit, and I do want to see if the 64-bit will help in the speed department.

Reminds me of the old days with the AutoCAD. Save......regen.....render.......close......smoke break.....aaahhhh, the good ole days. and i didn't even smoke.

ldcadd127
2008-05-15, 11:25 PM
The best way to speed up Revit is.....clear your Processes with the unneeds in your Task Manager, hope that your workstation is configured with a fast enough processor (clock speed as well as Intel Core 2 Duo--stay above 2.6 GHz if you can afford it--and don't try to run simultaneously with heavy applications. I've tried prioritizing the Revit application high and all others low, and it seems to work minutely, but when i've done all of the rest of the mentioned steps, I have no crashes, no long regens, and a heckuva time with MEP's new rendering machine.....mentalray!!!!