Pipe Insulation from Revit MEP not carrying over into NavisWorks

[Joe Fields]

Anyone know why pipe insulation doesn't carry over from Revit MEP into Navisworks? Or if it is supposed to, what is the trick to get it to work? I've tried assigning different materials to pipe insulation through Object Styles but it always comes into Navisworks without the insulation.

Thanks for any help!

[david.kingham]

Looks like a bug to me, the insulation from AutoCadMEP comes through fine, I would create a ticket here:
https://customer.navisworks.com/slxweb/portal/portalTicketsNew.php

[crawfords]

Say, does anyone know if this has been addressed? Seems like a pretty big bug to me. I suppose you could work around the problem by having clash tolerances large enough to account for the insulation. Still, it kinda throws off our coordination meetings by not being able to see the insulation.

-Crawford


(BTW - the link for ticket creation is no longer valid.)

[crawfords]

As a follow-up, the response I got from Autodesk was to export the plumbing views as DWGs and import them into Navisworks in that format. This seems to work OK.

-Crawford

[amixam]

You can also export just the insulation as a DWF and append into the MEP model. Plus it's easier to isolate and override color/transparency of just the insulation.

Cheers

[crawfords]

You can also export just the insulation as a DWF and append into the MEP model. Plus it's easier to isolate and override color/transparency of just the insulation.

Cheers

That sound like an even better idea, but is it possible to isolate the insulation within Revit. Please bear in mind that I'm exporting to Navis through Revit Architecture even though the systems were modeled in Revit MEP.

-Crawford

[amixam]

That sound like an even better idea, but is it possible to isolate the insulation within Revit. Please bear in mind that I'm exporting to Navis through Revit Architecture even though the systems were modeled in Revit MEP.

-Crawford

Yes, in the Visibility Graphics setting of Revit Architecture, you can select just the insulation to be displayed. You need to make sure you check that all disciplines are displayed. Also, when you import the DWF to NW. You need to rotate 90 degrees so that it lines up with the NWC.

[crawfords]

Does anyone know whether this issue is to be addressed in the next release of Revit MEP? While these workarounds have been useful, exporting models of the plumbing as a DWG rather than a NWC eliminates the ability to use the object information from the Revit model. It would definitely be more useful to distinguish between the differnt plumbing types, etc.

-Crawford

[RobertB]

Does anyone know whether this issue is to be addressed in the next release of Revit MEP? ...Even if we did know, we could not comment on the question until we are released from the non-disclosure agreement. You need to wait until Autodesk announces the release before asking such questions.

[crawfords]

Even if we did know, we could not comment on the question until we are released from the non-disclosure agreement. You need to wait until Autodesk announces the release before asking such questions.

Can I ask now?

-Crawford

[RobertB]

Can I ask now?

-CrawfordYup. Even better, you can download and try, and let us know. ;)

[crawfords]

As much as I'd like to provide the answer myself, we're not allowed to install software on the machines here without the explicit blessing of 51% of the IT group and a note from mom.

So, has anyone heard if the pipe insulation export bug has been fixed? Thanks.

-Crawford

[cjehly]

perhaps this is a good opportunity to talk about the subscription process in general, or maybe that might be suited for another thread...

[RobertB]

And I misspoke since the release hasn't been made yet.

[crawfords]

I received a message today from Autodesk support saying that they had logged this bug, and that it has been addressed in 2011. I hope to have this version installed today and give it a test; I'll let you know how it works out. Thanks.

-Crawford

[crawfords]

HOORAY! It works!

It took a while to contend with some of the installation issues, but I finally got Navisworks Manage 2011 up and running. As advertised, it will now account for pipe insulation. Sadly, doe to deadline folderol, I won't have time to play with it further, but look forward to doing so soon.

-Crawford

[RobertB]

HOORAY! It works!

It took a while to contend with some of the installation issues, but I finally got Navisworks Manage 2011 up and running. As advertised, it will now account for pipe insulation. Excellent! Thanks for posting your findings.

[nnikitine]

seems to work for me with mep 2011 and navis2011. got just regular pipes with insulation on the screenshot.

[cdsuggs]

Since using 2012, this has become an issue for me. I believe to have isolated the issue down to not being able to select insulation. Pipe, yes; Insulation, no. Very upsetting.

The only way I can now get insulation into Navis is changing the Export setting from Selection to Current View. Of course now I can't quickly export small groups of pipe.

So now... Select all objects > Shift+select items to export (removing) > Temp Hide (hides the pipe not to export (you'll still see insulation for these items)) > Export NWC (with export setting to current view).

Totally lame and I'd love some feedback, but at least I'm still not waiting to export entire floors and/or managing lot's of 3D views.

Cheers.