Best practice to built walls in revit

[Wagurto]

How do you guys handle the walls in revit. I having so many problems wiht each single method that I've tried.
1. I have built the walls from foundation to parapet. I hd problems trying to keep finish layer of the wall from foudation to parapet when its only need it inside occupade spaces.

2. I had problems if I built segmented walls from foundation to first floor, then to second floor and then from roof to top of parapet. If I don't constrain every wall then if I move something on one floor I up end with off walls on the rest of the levels.

3. I heard that one way to do this right is draw two walls one for the block wall and other for the finishes. Is that a right practice or its too complicated.

I would appreciate any feed back that I can get from you guys.
Thanks

[d.stairmand]

At my office we tend to use 2 Walls
That way we can Tag them differently
1 Wall is the Exterior Wall - Say Plastered Block
1 Wall is the Interior Wall - Say Gib board on Strapping
The Interior Wall then can be attached to the ceiling, & does not go full height to the underside of the roof. It also allows us greater ontrol over the walls & how they are made up & modelled

[Wagurto]

yes, that looks like a viable alternative but requires double the effort creating the walls. Also when inserting openings how do you place a door in the two walls at the same time? I wish revit factory could do something about this issue. Maybe a tool to create parallel walls or maybe a more versatil wall which you can control the layers more effectibly.
Is there any other way?
thanks

[Mike Sealander]

I am working on a three-story brick on concrete masonry building right now. Part of our effort is to sheath the interiors of the exterior walls with insulation and gyp.bd. So here, because of phasing, we are building an existing exterior wall and a separate new interior wall. I join the two walls to allow openings to show all the way through, and this works. The exterior wall is three stories tall. Each interior furring is floor to ceiling.

[Andre Carvalho]

...Also when inserting openings how do you place a door in the two walls at the same time?...

If you join the walls (Join Geometry), when you insert the opening it will cut both walls at the same time. If the walls aren't joined, the opening will be placed in one wall, however at the same moment you join the walls, the opening is created on the other wall too.

Andre Carvalho

[Wagurto]

But if you join the walls will you loose the apperances of the block wall with the gyp finish or not?
thanks

[Andre Carvalho]

I don't think so. Set your CMU wall core layer to Structural (1) and on the other wall type (gypsum board) set it to finish (4). When you join them the only thing you'll miss is the wide line in between both walls. But the CMU and the gyp will be very well defined into the wall and separated by a thin line.

Andre Carvalho

[Wagurto]

thx Andre I will try it.

[narlee]

If your door has Revit's casings, they don't follow the thickness of the combined walls. So another parameter (manual dimension input?) is needed for that.