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pdickman
2008-04-01, 06:07 PM
I am hoping there is a really obvious answer for this that I am just missing.
How do you get items above the cut plane to show in plan view? I am thinking of openings in floors and soffits. I have tried changing the top view range to be above the opening, but this is not doing anything.
Can anyone help me out?
Thanks.
jmctamney
2008-04-01, 06:10 PM
I am hoping there is a really obvious answer for this that I am just missing.
How do you get items above the cut plane to show in plan view? I am thinking of openings in floors and soffits. I have tried changing the top view range to be above the opening, but this is not doing anything.
Can anyone help me out?
Thanks.
Plan regions
pdickman
2008-04-01, 06:24 PM
Not exactly intuitive, but it works. Thanks.
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christo4robin
2008-04-01, 06:52 PM
Underlay an RCP view of the plan you are working on. Use the linework tool, set to Overhead, and select the lines you want to see. Turn off the underlay. The lines will remain, and will update if you move a floor opening, soffit location, etc.
durangodave
2008-04-08, 06:23 PM
Underlay an RCP view of the plan you are working on. Use the linework tool, set to Overhead, and select the lines you want to see. Turn off the underlay. The lines will remain, and will update if you move a floor opening, soffit location, etc.
I have the same issue.
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Revit help file says this: "Elements within the boundaries of the primary range that are not cut are drawn in a projection line style." That is exacty what I would like it to do with overhead features such as dropped soffits, etc.
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I dont need a plan region because my view range is already set so the top clip plane is above the dropped soffit. And why draw extra lines when revit will show them automatically (according to the "view range" help topic.)
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Am I misunderstanding this?
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pdickman
2008-04-08, 06:31 PM
I don't think it matters where the top plane is, your soffits will not show up (at least mine did not). I would have thought it would. The plan region is what worked for me. I found more information about it by searching "help".
I don't really know what the use of the top plane is, the other three make sense to me. Does anyone know what you would use the top plane for?
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durangodave
2008-04-08, 06:35 PM
I don't think it matters where the top plane is, your soffits will not show up (at least mine did not). I would have thought it would. The plan region is what worked for me. I found more information about it by searching "help".
I don't really know what the use of the top plane is, the other three make sense to me. Does anyone know what you would use the top plane for?
...rock chalk jayhawk!
EXACTLY.
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The Revit help file has said the same thing for YEARS. And I'd like to know how to get overhead elements to display like the help instructions say they should. (It would save a lot of work.)
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aaronrumple
2008-04-08, 09:28 PM
EXACTLY.
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The Revit help file has said the same thing for YEARS. And I'd like to know how to get overhead elements to display like the help instructions say they should. (It would save a lot of work.)
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Overhead objects that show above are first limited to a few categories.
From the help:
"There are a few categories for which an element located above the cut plane but partially below the top clip is shown in plan. These categories include windows, casework, and generic model. These objects are shown as viewed from above."
In addition, these objects display only as you have defined them to display when making the family. So if you din't set them up to display - they won't display.
This has been the same for YEARS ;-) and in the help. Yes, it could be clearer, but it does exactly what it says it should do.
The more traditional aproach for soffits (which are not part of the above cut plane display system) is to use the linework tool. Turn on an overlay, such as the floor plan's RCP. Use the linework tool to pick the edges you want to show. Then turn off the underlay. The lines remain. They will move and update with the soffit, because they are the actual edges of the modeled object, not just a drafted element.
durangodave
2008-04-08, 09:53 PM
Overhead objects that show above are first limited to a few categories.
From the help:
"There are a few categories for which an element located above the cut plane but partially below the top clip is shown in plan. These categories include windows, casework, and generic model. These objects are shown as viewed from above."
In addition, these objects display only as you have defined them to display when making the family. So if you din't set them up to display - they won't display.
This has been the same for YEARS ;-) and in the help. Yes, it could be clearer, but it does exactly what it says it should do.
The more traditional aproach for soffits (which are not part of the above cut plane display system) is to use the linework tool. Turn on an overlay, such as the floor plan's RCP. Use the linework tool to pick the edges you want to show. Then turn off the underlay. The lines remain. They will move and update with the soffit, because they are the actual edges of the modeled object, not just a drafted element.
Thanks, Aaron.
Can you tell me where that help quote came from? I need to study this, because there are aspects of displaying things that still baffle me after years with Revit.
Redrawing the soffit as a generic model still doesnt let it be displayed, even when the solid is set to display in every circumstance, and it extends below the top clip plane. (It only displays when I stretch it so it intersects the cut plane.)
Meanwhile, your solution will work well for me.
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