Row type Units

[Doug]

I am starting a new project of Row Type Townhouse Units. The project has 6 Unit Types. It will contain 120 Buildings of 6 units per Bldg. the Unit Mix is to be determined.
Each Unit has 3 alternate elevations.

In ADT 3.3 I completed each unit and x referenced them together to make up a building.

Question-
1. Will this work in Revit?
2. Party Wall - We are using the 2" Shaft liner for the firewall - Do I
make it 1/2 with one unit and 1/2 with the other Units in a wall type or
Make the Shaft Liner a separate wall between the units?

Anyone have experience with this?

Thanks

Doug

[beegee]

I would reference the units into each of the building types, adding end walls and specific conditions as required, in the building type file.

I would also keep the separating walls as a single wall. That means you'll have to carefully think through what is shown on the unit model files. I usually just have a grid line for reference, and build the separating wall in the building file, since there are usually different end conditions for these wall types.

Hope that makes sense.

beegee

[Doug]

Thanks for the info.

Will the seperations wall attach to the roof in a refrenced drawing? Wish we had more time to work out all the details before we start on this project. Oh well here I go!

I'll be testing my limits in Revit

[Vincent Valentijn]

It will contain 120 Buildings of 6 units per Bldg. the Unit Mix is to be determined. Each Unit has 3 alternate elevations.

1. Will this work in Revit?
2. Party Wall - We are using the 2" Shaft liner for the firewall - Do I
make it 1/2 with one unit and 1/2 with the other Units in a wall type or
Make the Shaft Liner a separate wall between the units?


First.. think before you start or you will wish you had sticked with ADT

You should realise that there is only 1 level in Revit, so everything can be linked into a file but.. this file cannot be linked any further.
Depending on the projectsize you should consider > you probably want different unitmixes per bldg? So if you need to do the compiling in a single file in which you have linked the units you will be down to placing 720 independant units in a single project-file!!
Besides that your computer will go insane, Revit will too.. I have experienced linked models being completely messed up when you copy them later [I had 6 towers.. 3 different compositions but simply copying one tower was totally impossible! it just won't work]

So maybe it is a good alternative to do it like this:
> make all your 6 units in a single RVT
> copy/rename this file as many times as you want different buildings [I presume not 120 but less]
> it is probably wise to group your units before stacking them.. be careful though, grouping is a precarious business in Revit.
> Finally, make a site drawing and link your buildings into it.
> Your 'total' file will be hardly workable anymore, but since you're only going to need it to show the situation, make some renderings.. that's the best option.. At least it is definately better to have good access to your builing-files isn't it?

[Vincent Valentijn]

oh.. and about the seperation-walls..
It depends what you want to do with them, do you need data from them?

If not, you can choose to simply draw them in each unit.. once 'overlayed' you won't see the difference. Also the joins between floors and walls will be controlable like this..
if you draw a seperate seperationwall (?) and put in grouped units later you'll have a hard time doing the connections.. grouping is hard enough as it is.
But if you want to be 'pure' I would indeed do it like this anyway -
draw seperations-walls and stuff like central staircases > put in grouped units later.. don't forget to use room-seperation lines on the edges of your units to keep area readings available. But keep in mind.. in a section you might end up with walls/floors not coming together as you wish...
these are just tips from my own experiences, just think things through really careful before you start or you will be stuck with -not so great- drawings or messed up data.

good luck, hope this helps you a bit

[Doug]

Thanks for the info. I did a couple of units all ready... Linked them together... it will work for modeling but not for construction doc's...

Revit is still for a single building type... not for making composit drawings.

oh well ... just wasted a bunch of time.