AutoCAD Structural Detailing?

[jkuhnle154184]

We've installed this at our office and have no idea how to use it. There seems to be very little documentation with it. On top of that all the steel members seem to be European, which doesn't help us. Anyone have a clue where to start with this thing?

[Scott D Davis]

This was a tool made available as part of the Robobat aquistion. This initial release will have all content in metric (it was a Eurpoean company). Imperial content will be coming. I'm not sure about doucmentation.

[Steve_Stafford]

Fwiw, we hope to have a forum here at AUGI for this new product. Anybody interested in being a moderator for it?

[jkuhnle154184]

Thanks. Glad to hear imperial content is coming. By documentation I meant tutorials or a help menu. For some reason the help menu doesn't work. Seems like it is trying to access a webpage or something.

[Adam Mac]

Our local re-seller here says it's a great way to get 3D details of connections into Revit.
Haven't actually got it here at work yet, but not far away and can't wait to try it.......

[aleph-null]

Just wondering where this product can be found?
I have looked on the Autodesk website and don't seem to be able to locate it under the Revit Structure downloads. I also don't see it on the Subscription website unless I am missing something.

[kbsheppard]

I couldn't find it either - it came with the dvd though

[Scott Hammond]

Hi everyone,

you can find more information about AutoCAD Structural Detailing here: http://www.robobat.com/n/us/958

We are in the process of adding a link to this from the Revit Structure page.

Please keep in mind what Scott Davis posted earlier around metric content. There are no imperial units or content at this time.

Thanks,

[johk]

Does anyone have any experience using these tools? I believe they have been around for a while but under Robobat's develpment.
How does the steel details package compare to say Tekla's Xsteel?

Cheers
Jonas

[Thomas Maleski]

Scott

Where can we download the software? It's not listed on the subscription site. I'm in the US but do overseas projects, so metric is fine.

[Scott Hammond]

AutoCAD Structural Detailing is part of the AutoCAD Revit Structure Suite 2009.
That is the only way to get AutoCAD Structural Detailing 2009.

[ronsoffice]

Please keep in mind what Scott Davis posted earlier around metric content. There are no imperial units or content at this time.

Thanks,

Im going to assume that Autodesk will eventually load this product with the correct Imperial Steel sizes to make this viable for north America.

But training is the number one big issue, no one at the retail level seems to know about this and i tried to use the tutorials on the the robobat website, but have struggled, but i hate learing from tut's so that could be why.

If Autodesk would like to do a conference type education meeting to knock down some of the wall around this software, ill bet you would get a good crowd wanting to see it.
Just make it affordable, and in a location for all around north America.

[mhr]

What is the time frame for making ASD2009 compatible with imperial units?

[Phil Palmer]

Downloaded the PDF help files from Robot site regarding the Autocad Structural Detialing Product.
Within a 300 Page pdf file file for the reinforcement section therte is not 1 mention of Revit Structures
IS there any link at all between Revit and this product ?
I would really like to understand the workflow Autodesk are sugesting to go from one to another

[Dariusz.Kwolek]

We've installed this at our office and have no idea how to use it. There seems to be very little documentation with it. On top of that all the steel members seem to be European, which doesn't help us. Anyone have a clue where to start with this thing?

More information about functionalities you will find in documentation.

Documentation for Steel module is available on: http://www.robobat.com/n/en/320/2
We have documentation in English, French or Polish.

Multimedia presentations are available on:
http://www.robotoffice.com/n/interface/44/
Click on AutoCAD Structural Detailing –> Steel/Reinforcement/Formwork Drawings -> Movies

Documentation and tutorials are available on AutoCAD Structural Detailing DVD.
Go to: Manuals\Eng



Dariusz KWOLEK
Structural Detailing Product Manager
Autodesk AEC Solutions

[allan_bim]

It looks a good package, but I would prefer to see some of the functionality that's contained within ASD be transfered over to Revit Structure (rebar drawing generation, steelwork connections etc). I don't like the idea of jumping between two seperate packages, I'm trying to move away from that!!

[Mlabell]

Could anyone offer up a good solution as to why I could not install the program unless it was the AutoCAD 2009 disc that was included with Revit Structure. I originally installed AutoCAD 2009 from my deployment (from vanilla disc) and The detailing software would not recognize AutoCAD 2009 for some reason. I unistalled AutoCAD 2009, put in the AutoCAD disc from Revit Suite, and installed AutoCAD 2009 and then followed up with the detailing software and everything seemed to work... Really :screwy:

[parannah]

Could anyone offer up a good solution as to why I could not install the program unless it was the AutoCAD 2009 disc that was included with Revit Structure. I originally installed AutoCAD 2009 from my deployment (from vanilla disc) and The detailing software would not recognize AutoCAD 2009 for some reason. I unistalled AutoCAD 2009, put in the AutoCAD disc from Revit Suite, and installed AutoCAD 2009 and then followed up with the detailing software and everything seemed to work... Really :screwy:

it is with the licensing. I tried to impliment it as well using reg. autocad 2009, but was unsuccessful. also, this will not work on a 64-bit platform, found that one out the hard way. there is some link with the licencing with the suite that ASD knows that you installed it from the structurual package, instead of the vanilla.

[Mlabell]

it is with the licensing. I tried to impliment it as well using reg. autocad 2009, but was unsuccessful. also, this will not work on a 64-bit platform, found that one out the hard way. there is some link with the licencing with the suite that ASD knows that you installed it from the structurual package, instead of the vanilla.

Hopefully they fix that problem in AutoCAD 2010 or maybe a service pack.

[Tomasz.Fudala]

What is the time frame for making ASD2009 compatible with imperial units?

ASD2010 will be compatible with imperial units.

[Tomasz.Fudala]

Downloaded the PDF help files from Robot site regarding the Autocad Structural Detialing Product.
Within a 300 Page pdf file file for the reinforcement section therte is not 1 mention of Revit Structures
IS there any link at all between Revit and this product ?
I would really like to understand the workflow Autodesk are sugesting to go from one to another

AutoCAD Structural Detailing is Integrated with Revit Structure through the extensions.You can use the Revit Extension (Reinforcement drawings) to generate 2D reinforcement drawings in the AutoCAD Structural Detailing - Reinforcement.

[Ricky Gawa]

Thomas,

With regards to the relationship between xsteel and ASD. The only Similarity I believe between the two is that they are both a paramteric modelling software, and thats where it ends. I am a Prosteel user, and have recently acquired the ASD package, and the transition between the 2 has been almost seamless. Prosteel, like ASD are based on the ACAD platform whereas Teklas Xsteel is not. I can't say i've used Xsteel myself, but i have worked in an office where ther were Xsteel,Prosteel and EasySteel users. I specialize in Mechanical shop detailing, and from what i've been told by the Xsteel users in the office is that, Xsteel is great for Structural, but not so good for mechanical ie not great for jobs using a lot of platework, like chutes. Looking forward to sinking my teeth in the new Package, but am finding it difficult to locate a "pro" to get some training.

[EddieS]

I am also a Prosteel man, In fact I provide Technical support and development for Prosteel with in our organisation.
I am also in the process of evaluating ASD and comparing it to Prosteel, I am building the same mocel in both and am going to produce shop detail drawing from each.
All of this is being compiled in a comparison document.
I am interested to know if their is any documentation on Customization of ASD through VB/A.

[Mlabell]

...I am interested to know if their is any documentation on Customization of ASD through VB/A.

I am sure you could do some development with VBA, but I would really make an effort to use VB.net instead. It appears that there is a lot more functionality with the new features of autocad and VB.net than with VBA. Just an observation that I have seen / heard from people.

[parweld]

I am a steel fabricator and we are currently detailing everything with standard AutoCad. I have been looking in to getting a "smarter" program, and Revit Structure is what I am really interested in. I would like to know if anyone has used Revit with ASD and has been satisfied with the outcome. They have purchased two 3D steel programs in the past before I was here, but no one could implement them and they weren't happy with the results. I just want to make sure that doesn't happen again.

[kathy71046]

It looks to have amazing potential if set up right.

I am just starting my first project, but as I'm not just a detailer, it may take a while before I can give you my opion as I have to actually set up the Revit Templates as part of that before I can send anything out to ASD.

And I keep getting distracted by my drafties and customers needing my assitance. :roll:

[Comach]

I am a steel fabricator and we are currently detailing everything with standard AutoCad. I have been looking in to getting a "smarter" program, and Revit Structure is what I am really interested in. I would like to know if anyone has used Revit with ASD and has been satisfied with the outcome. They have purchased two 3D steel programs in the past before I was here, but no one could implement them and they weren't happy with the results. I just want to make sure that doesn't happen again.

For a steel fabricator I would seriously suggest looking at AceCad who produce the Strucad package. It is a very flexible and mature product which incorporates many more features specific to steel fabrication.

[m20roxxers]

StruCAD is great software, the price however hurts, and implementation ain't cheap either, 1 licence of Stru-CAD could see you with 2 licences of Revit Suite and enough training for essentials, advanced and onsite custom training for both people. 3 licences and essentials & 1 or 2 Advanced for each if you want to skim on the training.

It will be interesting to see both groups size up the two packages, even those with StruCAD still have AutoCAD in most cases and I could see ASD slotting in as an extension of that, for small fast easy jobs.

Definately for Steel Detailers though, the ASIC connections just don't look that great in Revit, but lets see how we go once there is some interopertability between the two rather then analytical models. I still think steel connection families are faster and nicer then ASD objects.

However if Autodesk develops this against Stru-CAD to a point where it is comparable, then it would be interesting to see how the markets take given the cost is insignificant against Stru-CAD's cost and upkeep.

[parweld]

I have high hopes. If alot of engineering firms go to Revit I would like to be able to use their drawings if at all possible. Thus eliminating alot of our detailing. If I only had to insert the connections that the engineers leave out, it would save me lots of time recreating what has already been drawn once. I know it sounds good in theory, but I don't know if it will be a reality or not. I know there are alot of programs out there that I can use, but it looks to me like Revit is suppost to be a design-build program from start to finish, so if everyone in the desing process is going to be using it I thought it would be good if I could jump on it also.

[Comach]

I have high hopes. If alot of engineering firms go to Revit I would like to be able to use their drawings if at all possible. Thus eliminating alot of our detailing. If I only had to insert the connections that the engineers leave out, it would save me lots of time recreating what has already been drawn once. I know it sounds good in theory, but I don't know if it will be a reality or not. I know there are alot of programs out there that I can use, but it looks to me like Revit is suppost to be a design-build program from start to finish, so if everyone in the desing process is going to be using it I thought it would be good if I could jump on it also.

The design houses generally use a variety of structural design packages, including Frameworks, Tekla, Multi Steel, Strucad, SDS/2 and in some cases Revit etc etc - it would be useful to have a steel fabrication program in-house for your purposes that could read in data provided by these programs - the majority of which are Fabtrol compatible.

Revit Structural, though a good package, is often not the Structural design product of choice for the big multi-national design houses - in fact the majority of the big boys use PDS, Smartplant, PDMS - so I doubt if everyone in the design process will be using Revit.

I know of one major design consultancy that recently binned Autocad products altogether and setup their entire world wide operation with the Bentley/Intergraph solutions.

[parweld]

I don't know that much about the software, so I have been trying to do some research. On the Robobot website that talks about ASD it looks like the program works independently. If this is the case why would I need Revit? I just saw that Autodesk has a package that groups them together so I thought they worked hand in hand.

[kathy71046]

My understanding of the work flow is that you draw up the model in Revit, then export the members to ASD, thus your Marking Plans would be from Revit, and your actual detail drawings from ASD, based on the geometry and connections you have in the Revit Model.

Once they have been exported, they are independent, and should anything change in your Revit Model, you would need to export it all again.

[m20roxxers]

Unfortunately it's not that good yet, at this point you can only export the analytical model, from Revit, you then have to rebuild the members on those lines then start adding in your connections.

However there are some great parametric tools for purlins, stairs, ladders, rails which are alot better then Stru-CAD's capabilities at the moment, custom connections and simple connections are often a problem at this point, a little intuitiveness is needed.

[parweld]

So if you created your building model in Revit, when you export it to ASD all you get is a wire frame and you have to rebuild the model?

[m20roxxers]

Correct, though you can bring the solid members ASD does not recognise them as members and there you need to rely on the anlytical lines in order for this to work.

Once you have the Revit model strip to it's analytical framework and build it up from there.

I have been told this is important to get working and they haven't had the product that lons so I imagine it won't be a long time before we have better interoperability.

[thanganhlong]

Hi all,

I'm using Autocad Structural - Formwork Drawing but I don't know why the command "Formwoks Drawings / Jobs Preferences (RBCX_JOB_PREF command)" can't be accessed.

When I attempt to use this command, the "An uncupported operation was attempted" dialog appears and "FATAL ERROR : Unhandled Access Violation Reading ..." dialog followed.

Hope someone can help me :)

[Dariusz.Kwolek]

Hi

Can you tell me what did you do in ASD before Fatal Error appeared?
Have you changed ASD language in Preferences?

[fernando]

"Correct, though you can bring the solid members ASD does not recognise them as members and there you need to rely on the anlytical lines in order for this to work."

Not correct, you can model in Revit, and than export to ASD, where ASD recognize the objects created in Revit, if you use standard objects from the family library.

[m20roxxers]

Really??

What process is used to do this? At this point you can't even change the column type in ASD once you import from Revit regardless of the family whether it's Autodesk or not.

ASIC exporting will not work, as the files aren't true DWG's. ASD objects rely on being built on their own systems and for them to pick the correct profile I can't see anyway the 3D DWG export does this at this stage, it creates a solid object but no connections work with this system therefore it becomes useless.

The only thing usable is to rebuild the columns and beams using the custom routine systems in ASD. Therefore you need to load in the analyitcal Revit model and rebuild the intelligent objects from there. It's like importing a Revit model into AutoCAD Architecture or MEP and expecting the products to recognise the Revit information, there just solids and surfaces.

3D DWG export will also not work.

CIS/2 Files will not work using the ASD Import function.

Exporting into Robot then generating from there at this point does not work.

Will you please expand upon your workflow to generate this as I have contacted the product team and they agree with my assessment. You cannot build connections and position parts or develop drawings based off 3D drawings from Revit at this time.

I would love to be corrected as I have exhausted all options at this point including pestering Revit and ASD managers on when a direct link will be available.

[fernando]

Really??

CIS/2 Files will not work using the ASD Import function.



Yes it work, pay atention to the dialog box, where you could choose a import option.

[m20roxxers]

I have tried that and while it loads up the dialog box and allows you to pick your members. Nothing actually comes into my drawing.

Could you expand upon your workflow to make this work??

[ed.76566]

Will it install on Vista 64 soon?

[junaidah.yusof]

Hi there...

I've successfully exported my Revit Model to CSI/2 using Revit Extension manager. Am wondering, is it true that after creating the connections and all, I cannot import it back to REVIT?

So I can only model the columns and beams and stop there, export to CSI/2... Import the file to ASD, do the connections and I have to stick to ASD and no option to import it back to REVIT? (I tried saving the ASD file, and import it to CSI/2 but it failed to capture my connections)

Is it the same for reinforcement details? No way to export and import back to REVIT?

Thanks in advanced!

[junaidah.yusof]

Guys, help...

I model up steel connections and export it to CSI/2.. But when I try to import it back to Revit, it says there're no elements to import.. Why?

Did I miss a step?

[fernando]

Workflow Revit Structure Concrete solution

Draw model in Revit Arch and do a copy/monitor, or insert 2d dwg and draw preliminar structure with columns and beam´s.
Connect to Robot Millenium to analyse.
Draw rebars with extensions4revit and create draws using E4R also to create DWG draw of the rebars in ASD.
In ASD complet the details and finish the 2D draws, this dwg could be imported to Revit Project as drafting views


Metal Solution
Draw model in Revit Structure.
Connect to Robot Millenium to analyse.
Reajust solution in RST.
Export model as CIS to ASD and create detailed conections and plates.
Or draw all the model in ASD.
The final 3D model from ASD could be exported as an *.ACIS object to be inserted as a complet detailed model in Revit Structure or Revit Architecture

[junaidah.yusof]

Will the parametric information be lost if we import it back as drafting view? I.e. if I change the beam size (let say the beam depth is deeper), will it be able to read the change and change accordingly in the reinf't drawing?

As for the second, I have to re-import to Revit as an ACIS Solids? Again, won't it lose its parametric value?

[fernando]

Yes, you loose all the parametric conection after using ASD, but, lets see, when you use it, you probably had finished all the concept work, using ASD probably is the end of the chain in the documenting phase.

I had a workaround that permit a conections between ASD and Revit, but could'n talk about it here, is part of my job in consulting and implemention, sorry

[m20roxxers]

So I need robot Millenium to continue the workflow for the steel??
So I load the Revit Structure model into Robot then I need to save the resultant model as an CIS/2 file? Trying to use the direct link functions from robot to ASD have so far resulted in crashes. This may be due to the fact I only use the free version, not the full version though.
The product doesn't have our engineering codes I find it hard to convince my boss to buy a program to link two programs together he already owns.

I know the Reinforcement works but the details are totally unaccceptible for what most people do. They are very basic and bland and incorrect as has been pointed out in other posts.

I can't consider using ASD for detailing as an appropriate workaround, Revit detailing would be faster, am I supposed to link 400 dwg's into drafting views in Revit or incorporate them fully, which goes back to any changes made would then have to independantly changed in ASD then linked back into Revit. Revit detailing would be faster, then the file management mess that would be created from this. ASD details are pput on different paper spaces unless you setup the workset ASD enviroment which creates hundreds of files for every detail, which is great but not for use in Revit.

I think this is still very much a work in progress for Autodesk but it has potential.

You say you had a workaround??
Does it not work anymore?
I find it strange to withhold information because of your work, I can't imagine you will lose clients because of it. I mean if people took the time to review all the information AUGI has there wouldn't be a need for consultants in the first place, I imagine on top of that you have gained knowledge from this website from others who have contributed freely. Autodesk and reseller consultants are a great asset to any business for training and implementation, but I don't think hording information when you have it is in the spirit of this forum, why say you have an answer in the first place if you aren't going to tell us, or your previous answers were in fact misleading from the beginning.
Sorry for the comments but so far every instruction you've given hasn't worked then you turn around and tell me you can't tell me the right answer, which you could have said in the first place.

[kathy71046]

I'm pretty sure you don't need Robot Millennium unless you want to analyse it.

Our agent did a demo showing the process, although I had forgotten how, and there was no analysis, and no Robot Millennium in that demo.

[fernando]

m20roxxers,
first, you only need to use Robot Millenium in the analyse phase, not as a tool to connect Revit to ASD.

second, sorry if i explain bad myself, but i work as a consultant in BIM tecnology, i develop solutions and customize implementation to my customers based in my knowledge and experience, it´s not something i could write here "how to do..." ok?
I always contribute with my knowledge and opinions, but there are limits between a Forum to share information, and our work to a company, that don´t permit the share of some inside information and project's. They paid my salary, not AUGI ou Autodesk.

[junaidah.yusof]

Guys,

I have tried exporting Revit model to CSI/2. Successful. Import CSI/2 file to ASD. Successful.. Do up connections at ASD, successful. Export it back to CSI/2. I tried to import the said CSI/2 file to check and make sure everything is exported. But I realised none of the connections are appearing... Why this?

[m20roxxers]

Fernando

I apologise I thought you meant workflows, not customisable programing options that have been created to cater for the connection, that I understand fully for yourself and your business to put a price on as it takes time and work to develop for companies and they certainly don't want technology they have paid for the creation of given away to competitors.

I misread and I apologise.

[fernando]

Guys,

I have tried exporting Revit model to CSI/2. Successful. Import CSI/2 file to ASD. Successful.. Do up connections at ASD, successful. Export it back to CSI/2. Revit Structure don't recognize the information(conections, plates etc..) that ASD create.

As i said before, to reuse the model in Revit Structure, it's only possible to export from ASD as a *.sat file and create a family that after you insert in your revit project, only to coordinate and check the integration. This solution don´t permit you any change after input data in ASD.


m20roxxers...no problem...

[kbsheppard]

We've actually decided that the loss of inteligent objects is enough to not go to ASD and use Revit as a drafting tool. Commented above:

when you use it, you probably had finished all the concept work, using ASD probably is the end of the chain in the documenting phase.
I disagree, as we are doing our own steel detailing in office we prefer to think of our detailer as the last refinement step, a compliment to the steel design if you will. By leaving the detailing step inside revit the detailer has the ability to modify the design model as required by the connections to further enhance it's accuracy. (uberBIM :))
Are we the odd man out so to speak or is anyone else doing steel detailing in Revit??

I've added a quick screenshot as a little example of what we end with.

[m20roxxers]

I find for purely steel models and civil temporary works it is easier to do the project completely in ASD and then change them to suit our needs. ASD allows very little manipulation of the connections (ie. plates, columns, beams on different layers.) Also some completely detailed bow truss systems and custom steel members are easier to do in ASD then convert the object to a static Revit Family.

For everything else I find Revit to still to be much more efficient in the drafting cycle, I'm not sure how this program is meant to compliment Revit as a drafting solution as I can't see it working like that. It's like going back to AutoCAD in a way which is kinda pointless.
Can you imagine linking in all those drawings??

Also the Revit Reinforcement sections are setup to our standards unlike the Revit Extensions create drawing command which really doesn't suit our purposes as a firm for both the tabled information and the standards used.

I would like to know Autodesk's opinion of how the ASD system is meant to fit appropriately into the Revit mix, are they planning on using this as a detailing tool, or is it merely a suite of tools designed to compliment all area's of structural work and detailing.

[Comach]

Are we the odd man out so to speak or is anyone else doing steel detailing in Revit??

I've added a quick screenshot as a little example of what we end with.

Hi - just a quick observation on your attached sketch - the end view is incorrectly dimensioned.

The dimensions to the right of the END VIEW (holes) would be correct but you would not normally show the dimension on the left as you have done.

You should never dimension from the top of the beam to the end of the cleat.

To correct this, one edge distance dimension should be specified from the top hole (cleat) to the edge of the cleat and the dimensions to the left of the view deleted.

Also the overall dimension should be to the end of the cleats on the main view and not to the end of the beam - once assembled the check dimension would be over the end cleats and not the beam length. You would normally have a dimension from the grid EX to the end cleat (taking into account the erection tolerance) with an overall dimension, the next line would be the cleat projection followed by the exact (cut) length of the beam.

Questions:


How does this program take into account erection tolerance clearances?
The cleat at the top has an item mark of CA-10 which is also the item mark of the cleat at the bottom yet they are different - I am of course presuming in this instance that these are in fact item marks?

[kbsheppard]

:) Thanks hughrjt, you are of couse correct, this was a quick grab of a WIP before it got to our next level of checks. Unfortunately I don't think a true paperless office is in the near future. Not until monitors are 24"x36" and can give the same pixel DPI as a paper print.

I also am with m20roxxers:



...For everything else I find Revit to still to be much more efficient in the drafting cycle, I'm not sure how this program is meant to compliment Revit as a drafting solution as I can't see it working like that. It's like going back to AutoCAD in a way which is kinda pointless...

I would like to know Autodesk's opinion of how the ASD system is meant to fit appropriately into the Revit mix, are they planning on using this as a detailing tool, or is it merely a suite of tools designed to compliment all area's of structural work and detailing.


Is there a Strucutral Customer Council?

[abbakeer]

hi
regarding ASD reinforcement, i would like to know how to control the bar splice location in
the Surface reinforcement - bars window. Codes allow to put the bar splice at any location subject that specified bar splice length is considered and put the splice in stagger manner.
But some consultants refuse this way/method and they ask to put the bar splice in the compression zones only.
Thanks,

[bcmanuel]

Hello.

I`m new to ASD, less than two months, the question is...While doing the steel tutorial, almost at the end of it I got stuck. This is when I get to point 1.10 after doing the assembly of the column C1, I can see three different views of the element per se, but then I am instructed to LMC on the Edition Layout Tab wich is in fact where the 3 views are located ( i.e. paper space), and there is no way I can get to the context menu where it says "From Template" also I am unable to open nor see the "Select Template from File" nor open the A3 ASD 0...dwt template....so am I doing something wrong...

I would like to add, the explanations on this steel tutorial are very poor, like translated from another language, is there a way that Autodesk can do a more specific "fool proof" tutorial,

Thanks

[bcmanuel]

Hello.

I`m new to ASD, less than two months, the question is...While doing the steel tutorial, almost at the end of it I got stuck. This is when I get to point 1.10 after doing the assembly of the column C1, I can see three different views of the element per se, but then I am instructed to LMC on the Edition Layout Tab wich is in fact where the 3 views are located ( i.e. paper space), and there is no way I can get to the context menu where it says "From Template" also I am unable to open nor see the "Select Template from File" nor open the A3 ASD 0...dwt template....so am I doing something wrong...

I would like to add, the explanations on this steel tutorial are very poor, like translated from another language, is there a way that Autodesk can do a more specific "fool proof" tutorial,

Thanks

[bcmanuel]

Hello.

I`m new to ASD, less than two months, the question is...While doing the steel tutorial, almost at the end of it I got stuck. This is when I get to point 1.10 after doing the assembly of the column C1, I can see three different views of the element per se, but then I am instructed to LMC on the Edition Layout Tab wich is in fact where the 3 views are located ( i.e. paper space), and there is no way I can get to the context menu where it says "From Template" also I am unable to open nor see the "Select Template from File" nor open the A3 ASD 0...dwt template....so am I doing something wrong...

I would like to add, the explanations on this steel tutorial are very poor, like translated from another language, is there a way that Autodesk can do a more specific "fool proof" tutorial,

Thanks

Found it ...DUH me!!!!

[philippe.bonneau]

Try Advance Steel, which is a steel detailing 3D package working as an AutoCAD-based application.
Go to www.graitec.com for more infos.

[wachirastephen]

Hi guys
I have a remedy to all who are in Africa. I have gone through this and i can assist anyone willing from my area.The only short comings is description of steel profiles (sections).I think autodesk never considered africa when it comes to available profiles(sections)

[EddieS]

How desperate are you all for African steel sizes?
And are there any other country that are missing?

[wachirastephen]

my dear i think i got you right.
i am very desperate for them coz i need to use them especially for pipes and hot rolled angles.
the problem comes when you have produced a shop drawing but material description is totally different from the norm.
i give you example.
angle section-we are used to call them RSA
pipes-we are used to describe them as nominal bore ie NB

do you have any sort of assistance?

[philippe.bonneau]

Advance Steel contains all south-african sections, and a huge library of automatic connections according to the yellow and red south-african books is already available inside the software.
Go to www.graitec.com for more infos.

[arshad_640]

I am trying to go through the autocad structural detailing 2010 tutorial but I am stuck. At one point of the tutorial it is showing to copy the connections and I am not able to select the connection I have made. It says in the tutorial every connection is marked by a circle but I cannot see that circle. Any comments ?

Arshed

[lucis29]

Yes.

Go to->Settings->Preferencies->Structural Detailing->Steel (check "Connection Marks").

Go to->Connections and change the "Size" to 200 (or something big).

Good luck.

[arshad_640]

Hi,

Thanks for the help but i still cannot see the circle. I have attached a snapshot of what it looks like. I cannot see the circle to select the connections.

Thanks for the help again.

AH

[kathy71046]

Yes.

Go to->Settings->Preferencies->Structural Detailing->Steel (check "Connection Marks").

Go to->Connections and change the "Size" to 200 (or something big).

Good luck.

As Lucis said

[lucis29]

Unless you've exploded the connection...

Also try Regen, and Redraw commands.

Also try to Restart ASD (it is full of bugs).

Also try to change units from absolute to drawing units. (not sure about this).

[arshad_640]

Thanks Lucis !!! I got it !!

[lucis29]

Arshad, which one did the trick?

[arshad_640]

Hi,

I am a new user to Autocad structural detailing software and I do not have experience with using Autocad either. I started with Autodesk Inventor. I went through the training files but it does not show much.

I wanted to create a custom connection and save it in a database. How can I do that ? Also is there other tutorials like a detailed ones where i can learn more about the software?

Also I am try to create holes on an angle, but I am not able to. I can do a bolt pattern but here I am trying to put individual holes. What I am trying to create is something similar to the picture attached. I am only concerned about the 2 views showing the holes....

Please advise !!!

AH.

[arshad_640]

Arshad, which one did the trick?


Hi Lucis,

sorry for the late reply !!! This part of your answer worked for me;

Go to->Settings->Preferencies->Structural Detailing->Steel (check "Connection Marks").

In my setting the connection marks was not checked.

Thanks,

Arshed

[kathy71046]

I wanted to create a custom connection and save it in a database. How can I do that ?
It's not possible to create your own connection types. You can save settings within a project for an existing type to keep plate sizes, holes, welds etc though.



Also I am try to create holes on an angle, but I am not able to. I can do a bolt pattern but here I am trying to put individual holes. What I am trying to create is something similar to the picture attached. I am only concerned about the 2 views showing the holes....

When you use the drill tool, uncheck the bolt and it will do holes only. You can also use the remove bolts command after doing it.

[arshad_640]

Hi Katika,

Thnaks for the reply. For the second question about drilling holes, I am able to do it only in the XY plane, but am not able to figure out a way if I want to do on the other leg of the angle i.e. in the XZ or YZ plane. I have attached a picture to get an idea....

Thanks again,

Arshed

[kathy71046]

to drill the other leg, you will need to change your UCS.

I normally keep 3D navigation and view tools under my ribbon, (UCS, UCS II and view)

The other way is to use the dynamic ucs button on the model tab of the ribbon to change it.

[lucis29]

to drill the other leg, you will need to change your UCS.



...more

Command:
Command: ucs (enter)

Current ucs name: *WORLD*
Specify origin of UCS or [Face/NAmed/OBject/Previous/View/World/X/Y/Z/ZAxis]
<World>: (pick a point on the perpendicular face)
Specify point on X-axis or <accept>: (pick a point colinear with the first one on the same plane)
Specify point on the XY plane or <accept>: (pick a point perpendicular on the line defined previously)

OR

Command: ucs

Current ucs name: *NO NAME*
Specify origin of UCS or [Face/NAmed/OBject/Previous/View/World/X/Y/Z/ZAxis]
<World>: f
Select face of solid object: (choose the face on which you want to drill the holes).

Good luck.

[arshad_640]

Hi,

I have a question regarding the usage of Joists and trusses in Autocad Structural Detailing. Does ASD have a standard library for joists and trusses. Is there a way I can generate the joist by entering the code (for eg SJI) or for trusses (for eg. 22K6). What I want is to enter the code and it should give me the details of the joist or trusses. What I could find untill now is in parametric structures window, we have to specify the details for each member and then it will generate the truss for me (I did not find anything for joist).

Please advise,

A.H.

[arshad_640]

Thank u kathika for your answer on drilling holes

A.H

[arshad_640]

Hi,

I still did not get the answer for ASD 2010 regarding the joists and trusses. Is there a way to use standard trusses and joists from a catalogue ?

Please advise.

AH

[m20roxxers]

If they are not in the catalogue you will need to add them in.

In 2010 this is an access database .mbd you can open and apply additional items if they are already in a database format.

In 2011 this has been changed to xml. There is an update function to update mbd's to xml in the program however if you are starting from scratch you will need to add this directly via an xml editor.

Does the current members not work for you?

[asgeeven692131]

Hi Guys,


I’m trying to find away to represent bar marks as “01” not just “1” when tagging rebar, even when bar mark is in a circle it starts with 1 not 01.
Any help would be appreciated.

[andrew.boardman1]

try job perferences - options on right hand side should be a box numbering of rebar - either 1 or 01

[kmoser194278]

I know this isn't a great place for a discussion about jobs, but I am trying to find a part-time consultant who can help with some ASD work and I am having a horrible time trying to locate qualified people. Any suggestions on where I should look?

Thanks much,

Klaus
Blue Sky Building Systems

[adesheadband534770]

Hi I have been trying to drill holes using your proceedure and have not succeeded, we want to drill hole in a Rib Plate and wondered if you would be kind enough to give us a simplified version of what you described, or is it simply not pssible to drill holes in this type of plate?
Please help :(