Need layering for NCS

[eldridge]

I am a 1 person Cad department. Me only.

I want to change from our company standard to the NCS. I would like to take a short cut in the layering of my templates by asking someone out there to send me a blank border with the layering attached.

I work for a small Chemical company and the types of templates I will have are 1 for P & ID's.1 Electrical, 1 for Mechanical ( piping), 1 for Architectural.

My current piping blocks don't match the standard either if someone has those... it would be great too. (current piping blocks are made from old company standards, very old)

This is a big change, alot of reading ... any other suggestions, tips or shortcuts would be greatly appreciated.

Ann

[Brian Benton]

The way I understand the NCS (please, anyone correct me if i am wrong) is that in order for you to use the NCS your company has to purchase a license. And that you are not allowed to pass it out. Sounds silly i know, because once you create a cad file with it and you pass out that file you are essentially passing out the standard. That's the way our manager where I work explained it to me. That is also why the NCS website doesn't list any of the standards either.

[eldridge]

I thought about purchasing and I came close to doing so however I found this on the internet and have been setting up everything using this as a guide line.

https://tsc.wes.army.mil/products/standards/aec/2_0_Std/volume2.pdf

As I understand it, they were using NCS version 2.0. And they modified it for them, which is close enough for what I want. The layering is a lot of typing....

From what I have read, NCS 4.0 just delivers the outline. I downloaded the sample templates from the link below and used them as an example to lay mine out. They also have blocks, line types and everything... but I have to recreate it all. As one person it's very time consuming. I would have bought the whole deal if I didn't have to re-create it all... So if all I get for the purchase is the outline...

Is this true? Or does the standard actually contain the blocks already created and the layering already created? If not, It's like re-creating the wheel...

I don't want to step on toes or be illegal; I have the funds available for purchase... It’s just when I saw all this info I held off on the purchase and have been going over this for anything I can learn from.

[Brian Benton]

Version 4 now comes with a template file. All previous versions only came with a PDF!! So, yes, if you purchase version 4 then you get a PDF, DWF, and an XLS file.

[eldridge]

OHHHHHH, this makes the purchase much more attractive!

Thanks

[Richard.Kent]

Buy the NCS. The layering is a method and not a finite list of layers. You can make the layer names unique to your situation rather than forcing things on layers that may not make sense.

[Brian Benton]

He's right. They have standard methods to create the layers, many of them create a basic layer set, but it is more of a procedure to follow rather than "this goes on this layer, this goes on that, etc."

[eldridge]

Yea, I may go on and do that. But so far I have been able to pull up the standard site and run a search and pull all my answers out of it. It gave me the layering methodology. I also got the standard blocks or I should say pictures of the standard blocks... I also got templates of the borders which have a sampling of the layers in it... the same methodology on it. If I did a huge amount of architectural or civil I would be more inclined to buy it.