Floor tiling

[Doug Pearson]

I haven't seen this mentioned, so hope it's not covered eleswhere.

For those hatchings of floors. Instead of doing a floor and 'split face' routine as explained to me recently....
Use 'modeling'- CEILINGS.
Set properties of ceiling as 'level'- Floor you are working on,
Height offset from level= '0'.
And select the room, it automatically places the ceiling hatch.
And- it goes under doors/components automatically.
Try it, you will get it.
You can adjust by doing the 'Sketch Ceiling' routine.
Of course then go to Properties, Element Properties, Edit/new, Type Properties etc. Make a new ceiling, say 200sq ceramic tiles.

Of course you then have strange ceiling plans, forget them or delete them.
Any other problems please tell. It's certainly quick.

[Vincent Valentijn]

great Doug! sounds like a good method, I'll try.. :)

[aaronrumple]

This is not unlike many users are doing with thin floors. I build my basic floor with the substrate and structure as part of the floor. The floor finish is then later added as another floor on top of the existing floor.

I think the thin floor approach is better than faking a floor with a ceiling. it makes me nervous in a BIM system when things are not classified correctly. I've used a roof as a tilted wall before and it always makes me queasy....

[bclarch]

I agree with Aaron. Seems fraught with potential problems. If you drop a ceiling based light fixture into the plan which ceiling will it want to insert itself into? Will a floor based object be smart enough to cut through a ceiling to get to a floor? etc.

[Doug Pearson]

Yep, I can see the problems. Only for QUICK hatching I guess.
The split floors and compound floors can be slow to do or end up with
a segmented structural floor, especially concrete slabs. You can recess/split and add tiling, but as I say, it seems a much slower solution.
So- use with caution, but worth remembering when time is short.
May be worth it only to prompt Revit to give us a quick floor tiling/finishing method like the ceiling 'drop-n-fill' method!

Cheers

[PeterJ]

Doug, it's there. I think you missed what Aaron was saying. Instead of using a ceiling to achieve what you are doing you simply apply a new floor over the main floor which is maybe 5 mm thick and leveled 5 mm above the floor substrate level - insert your local dimesnsion type - and you have something which can schedule as a floor finish and doesn't have the confusion that the ceiling suggestion might bring. It won't autosketch like a ceiling but it will work with pick walls.

P

[Scott D Davis]

if you have already created one floor, just copy it, then edit the properties to make it the thinner finish layer, rather than redrawing a new floor by Pick Walls.

[Vincent Valentijn]

after a short test.. yep.. the ceiling idea is not so great. It does confuse my lighting-fixtures and also, as expected.. it is no good for scheduling the tiled floors.
But an auto-sketch method for floors would be a great option! :idea: :) It would save the burden of drawing the floors (pick walls isn't always a great option, walls often go beyond rooms) or copying/editing them.

Another suggestion for 'the meanwhile' - I use a floorbased family to make tiled floors. It's a small square of tiles which you drop in a room, you can quickly Align the tiles to the walls and you're done! In schedules it shows the family with it's length/width and location. The only downside is that it's not so perfect for non-rectangular rooms..