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Martin P
2004-09-16, 07:37 AM
Can somebody explain to me the exact process that you do and do not get this with. I am doing a lot of overtime at home at the moment and take my license home quite often. Today I forgot to take it back and expected 24 hours grace - I didnt get it and now I have got to go all the way home, export it then come back. It is a very bad system, why cant I just export it for a set amount of time - then I dont have send it back to myself every time - I can just take it home for 5 hours or something...........
beegee
2004-09-16, 08:22 AM
Hi Martin ,
I not sure if you are talking about a network license system ( LBU License Borrowing Utility ) or
a stand alone license employing the PLU ( Portable License Utility )
Steve Burri answered a lot of questions about license borrowing in another thread (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=2814&page=2&pp=10&highlight=license)
Standalone Licenses - Licensing twice
The licensing agreement reads:
Additional Installation: Except with Educational, Student and Evaluation Versions, you may make a second copy of the Software on the hard disk of a second computer owned by you or under your control provided that (1) the original and second copies are used only by the same person; (2) the second copy is installed and used only on either (i) with respect to Network Versions, a redundant server that makes the Software available for use only when your primary server on which the Software is installed becomes inoperable, or (ii) a notebook computer, home computer, or other non-server computer away from your usual work location for the purpose of enabling you to perform work while away from your usual work location; (3) only one of the Software copies is in use at any one time; (4) the second copy of the Software is used exclusively with the copy protection device (if any) supplied with the Software, and (5) the Software is not licensed and/or labeled as an Educational Version or Student Version.I'm no lawyer, but in summary you can license Revit on a second machine if you are in control of that machine and do not use Revit on the two machines concurrently. There's a bit more to it than this, but for the purposes of this thread, that should answer the question on stand-alone usage and licensing the software on multiple machines.
Standalone Licenses - Moving your license
If you need to move your license from one machine to another, you can use the Portable License Utility (PLU). This will disable Revit on the machine from which the license is "borrowed" and enables it on the "borrowing" machine. This is pretty well documented in help, and PeterJ summarized it pretty well earlier in this thread.
IMHO - this functionality provides greater flexibility than was available to users prior to 6.0 (and 5.1L).
Network Licensing - Borrowing
Scott nailed this one on the head...
If you are on a license server, you can check out a license for a period of time, using the License Borrowing Utility located in the Start Menu>Programs>Autodesk Revit 6.0
Couple of draw backs: The computer to want to 'borrow' a license for, must be on the network where the license server resides. You can't 'borrow' to a disk, take it home, pop it in and go. Once you borrow a license, it will revert back in the number of days you choose. But you will have one less available for that time frame on your license server. You can have an 'Early check-in' which will put the license back on the license server before the time is up.Again IMHO - this is an increase in flexibility to the prior licensing method (5.1 and earlier).
Replies to some specific questions / comment:
pashley - So the answer to your 1st questions is "Yes" on all accounts (assuming you have Stand-alone licenses).
mlgatzke - I'm not an ACAD expert, but I do not believe the Server allows you to check a license out without the physical device (computer) actually being on network during checkout. Feel free to double check this on the autodesk.autocad.network newsgroup.
sfaust - You need to acquire a new Authorization Code to license on the new machine. You can (and will need to) use the same serial number on the new computer, which will result in a new/different request code, to acquire the new authorization code. The serial number and your computers unique "signature" combine to create a unique request code which, in turn, returns a unique Auth Code.
pashley - Prior to 6.0 (5.1L) there was no such thing as a Portable License Utility in the terms it is being used today. You were permitted to install and license Revit on two machines... that has not changed, and it will not count against your totals if you do so. In addition to that, now you can move that license from/to any computer at your discretion using a tool called the Portable License Utility. In the past, once you licensed on your "transfer" computer, and wanted to move the license again, you had to call Revit Support and get us to clear your license.
PeterJ
2004-09-16, 08:48 AM
Martin
I don't know the answer to the question on the grace period but it sounds from Steve Burri's comments, quoted by Beegee, that you can simply arrange to install the license you use at work on the home machine, if you are not going to be using the two machines at the same time. Leonid Raiz made a similar comment on here at some stage so I think you should feel quite clear in this.
Doesn't help you with this morning's issue though.
beegee
2004-09-16, 09:49 AM
I'm fairly sure the LBU (network) has a 30 day period, but the PLU ( stand-alone) has an unlimited period.
PeterJ
2004-09-16, 09:59 AM
I'm fairly sure the LBU (network) has a 30 day period, but the PLU ( stand-alone) has an unlimited period.
Yes, the Portable License Utility means that you can simply move a license in your organisation and never move it back - saves getting a renewal/change through Autodesk.
Martin P
2004-09-16, 10:38 AM
It is the PLU that I am using as opposed to the network license. The netwrok license sounds as though it may be more useful for the way I am using Revit between the office and home.
Though it is very interesting about the possibilty of having it permanately at home, that would be an absolute god send for me if I could do that. It is a bit of a nightmare bouncing the license back fore every evening and morning. I think that affects the grace period too - ie if it has been exported recently and imported back on again you wont get a grace period. Is it the case that I can have installed at home then? can anyone clarify if I can do this, and how I would go about it?
PeterJ
2004-09-16, 10:52 AM
Martin, you have broadband at home, is it fixed IP? That would enable you to use XPs remote desktop functions, or something like VNC to control the home machine from the office and hence unhitch the license if you left it at home.
Alternatively, I think you can just key in the numbers can't you? Isn't Janet still at home? Just get her to call out the string of digits over the phone.
Phil Palmer
2004-09-16, 10:54 AM
Martin,
I think its as easy as just registering your machine at home with the same serial number and the different request code that your home machine generates.
I believe that the Autodesk licencing system will automaitically allow 2 licences per serial number.
Give it a go on-line and see
Martin P
2004-09-16, 12:45 PM
Martin,
I think its as easy as just registering your machine at home with the same serial number and the different request code that your home machine generates.
I believe that the Autodesk licencing system will automaitically allow 2 licences per serial number.
Give it a go on-line and see
Will do that for sure Phil, thank you :)
Janet had just dropped me off and was going shopping Otherwise she would have def been on the case Pete LOL... BTW we have VNC installed, but not running yet - hopefully soon though.
blads
2004-09-17, 01:00 AM
Martin,
I think its as easy as just registering your machine at home with the same serial number and the different request code that your home machine generates.
I believe that the Autodesk licencing system will automaitically allow 2 licences per serial number.
Give it a go on-line and see
A word of warning - if youre an aussie, I dont believe OUR licesens allows us to install on 2 machines, ie work/desktop & home/laptop
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