saeborne
2008-07-17, 03:14 PM
Hi all,
What is the best way to deal with the sealant around curtain walls,
Please look at the first screen capture: "1 CADD DETAIL.jpg" This is the condition to which I'm referring. Where a mullion hits a brick wall, there is a 3/4" gap infilled with sealant, backer rods, etc.
"2 COARSE.jpg" is a screen shot from Revit in Coarse scale view. This is perfectly fine for schematic level work. But obviously, the actual geometric length of glass / mullion is not true. Every edge is 3/4" off.
"3 FINE.jpg" is from Revit at a Fine Scale view. Notice how the mullion shows much more detail. This is done through detail components in the profile... Like the Kawneer components from BIMWORLD. In an ideal world, we want to take live plan / section details directly from the model, for these conditions. As much as possible, I want to avoid doing drafting views for this condition.
"4 GAP.jpg" Yes, I could model it so that there is a 3/4" gap, then infill with detail components. But frankly, this method SUCKS!!! At each edge of every curtain wall, I would need to "Disallow joins." Plus, down the road, I believe this will mess up Revit MEP.
"5 IRREGULAR MULLION.jpg" I could play with the profile of the mullion, to geometrically represent the depth of the sealant. I could add detail components within the profile (visibility controlled by level of detail) to represent the silicon and backer rod, etc.
But I have a couple problems with this.... I have no way of controlling the material of the sealant vs. the material mullion. So that 3/4" gap between the brick and the mullion will read as clear anodized aluminum. Also, my mullion is 2" wide, not 2 3/4"! technically, I have to model incorrectly to trick Revit into acknowledging the sealant.
Wow... long f'ing post. Well, thank you if you managed to get through it all. I appreciate any feedback or ideas.
Bryan
What is the best way to deal with the sealant around curtain walls,
Please look at the first screen capture: "1 CADD DETAIL.jpg" This is the condition to which I'm referring. Where a mullion hits a brick wall, there is a 3/4" gap infilled with sealant, backer rods, etc.
"2 COARSE.jpg" is a screen shot from Revit in Coarse scale view. This is perfectly fine for schematic level work. But obviously, the actual geometric length of glass / mullion is not true. Every edge is 3/4" off.
"3 FINE.jpg" is from Revit at a Fine Scale view. Notice how the mullion shows much more detail. This is done through detail components in the profile... Like the Kawneer components from BIMWORLD. In an ideal world, we want to take live plan / section details directly from the model, for these conditions. As much as possible, I want to avoid doing drafting views for this condition.
"4 GAP.jpg" Yes, I could model it so that there is a 3/4" gap, then infill with detail components. But frankly, this method SUCKS!!! At each edge of every curtain wall, I would need to "Disallow joins." Plus, down the road, I believe this will mess up Revit MEP.
"5 IRREGULAR MULLION.jpg" I could play with the profile of the mullion, to geometrically represent the depth of the sealant. I could add detail components within the profile (visibility controlled by level of detail) to represent the silicon and backer rod, etc.
But I have a couple problems with this.... I have no way of controlling the material of the sealant vs. the material mullion. So that 3/4" gap between the brick and the mullion will read as clear anodized aluminum. Also, my mullion is 2" wide, not 2 3/4"! technically, I have to model incorrectly to trick Revit into acknowledging the sealant.
Wow... long f'ing post. Well, thank you if you managed to get through it all. I appreciate any feedback or ideas.
Bryan