Doors in Curtain Systems & Not Filling out Schedules

[AJGKennedy]

Anyone have any idea why doors placed in curtain wall systems do not give the same information to the schedules...

I have door schedules that extract the level a door is placed, what room it is entering from and to... even the departments... but non of this information is showing on the schedule for my doors created within the curtain wall system...

And the way things work... I can not fill them in manually... I suppose if I have to and I do not get any replies... I can be like a AutoCAD user and add the text directly to the schedule on the sheet... scary...

But please someone have an answerer...

Thanks...

[patricks]

Is the door panel a curtain panel door family? Those will show up in my schedule. For some reason I have to give it an instance number manually. It won't auto-increment numbers like regular doors placed in walls do.

[Dimitri Harvalias]

Curtain panel doors seem to have a number of behaviour problems.
As Patricks pointed out, they don't seem to want to auotnumber. The to room/from room numbering doesn't work unless you create a separate section of curtain wall that is specific to the room and level.

[dbaldacchino]

Another problem with CP doors is that Revit will not catch duplicate marks between wall hosted doors and curtain panel doors.

One way to get around all the grief is to exchange the curtain panel with a wall and then host a frameless door in it.

[AJGKennedy]

Your response (Dimitri Harvalias's) sounds like you know a way to get it to work, but I am unsure what you mean...

The problem noted in the first response is the precise problem... for you do have to give it a number manually and the room to and from information is not filled out in the schedule..

Not sure about Dave's trick... it may work but it sounds like I may get into some extra ghosting like stuff in my model... (back to faking it... what fun)

[dbaldacchino]

No faking anything with that method. Select a panel, just like you would do when changing a panel to a curtain panel door, and instead, change it to a wall, something similar in thickness to your curtainwall or less. Now you can host regular doors in that wall. Obviously you would probably want to use a framless door since now the curtan wall mullions act as your frame.

[AJGKennedy]

O.K.

This sounds like a possibility... now that I get it... I will try it...

I still wish they would just read into the program the same as the other doors without the tricks...

This seems like a lot of extra background work to get things to work... but I suppose once it is set up... it will work for all future ones...

[AJGKennedy]

Any idea why my existing doors will not show which rooms they are coming to and from? We are showing existing doors in the schedule since some may have new hardware added... or finish... and I really would like them to pick up the same way as the new... but I would like them to remain appearing as existing, since they are not fully new... but I wonder if that is the problem... because they are set as existing... they are not showing the same due t this...

any thoughts on this... somewhat related... I thought about a new post, but thought it was tied to this one... who knows I may have been wrong...

[tim.101799]

I am also having an issue scheduling my curtain wall doors. They appear in the schedule, but the room name does not get filled in and I cannot add the room name in the schedule.

[AJGKennedy]

Any idea why my existing doors will not show which rooms they are coming to and from? We are showing existing doors in the schedule since some may have new hardware added... or finish... and I really would like them to pick up the same way as the new... but I would like them to remain appearing as existing, since they are not fully new... but I wonder if that is the problem... because they are set as existing... they are not showing the same due t this...

any thoughts on this... somewhat related... I thought about a new post, but thought it was tied to this one... who knows I may have been wrong...

I was just looking back at some of my post and noticed this one... I did figure this out... It had to due with the phasing... My room names are given in the new phases and did not existing in the existing... if I wanted room names to appear in the schedule for existing doors I had to add room names to an existing plan (phase existing....)

[AJGKennedy]

I am also having an issue scheduling my curtain wall doors. They appear in the schedule, but the room name does not get filled in and I cannot add the room name in the schedule.

You would have to follow Dave's idea...


No faking anything with that method. Select a panel, just like you would do when changing a panel to a curtain panel door, and instead, change it to a wall, something similar in thickness to your curtainwall or less. Now you can host regular doors in that wall. Obviously you would probably want to use a framless door since now the curtan wall mullions act as your frame.

I have not tried it yet myself... I will have to at some point, but the area around the doors I have to worry about in this area are still up in the air, so I haven't wasted any time on them... I do want to try it out some time... I hope it works for you... it does seem a bit complicated... I do wish that they could have made this more simple... :)

[tim.101799]

No faking anything with that method. Select a panel, just like you would do when changing a panel to a curtain panel door, and instead, change it to a wall, something similar in thickness to your curtainwall or less. Now you can host regular doors in that wall. Obviously you would probably want to use a framless door since now the curtan wall mullions act as your frame.


I did this and it worked great! It was also very easy.