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mike.vroegindeweij
2008-07-31, 11:00 AM
Improve filters in Visibily Graphics
To use filters also for annotions and 2D category’s and with instance parameters.
aaronrumple
2008-07-31, 01:32 PM
2D details or 2D annotations?
mike.vroegindeweij
2008-07-31, 04:30 PM
Both of course
aaronrumple
2008-07-31, 04:37 PM
There is no need to filter 2D annotation. It is either in the vview or not as it is specific to one view.
What are you needing filters for on 2D details? Graphic overrides or visibility control?
m20roxxers
2008-07-31, 11:42 PM
All 2d information can be controlled already using the subcatagories in the family editor of details. Any linework can be controlled aswell.
mike.vroegindeweij
2008-08-01, 11:06 AM
Acording to that reasoning you do not need a filter. Because you can rule this by VG.
But I do not agreed with this. Par example for tags. By the interior design we sometimes want to hide a part of the electrical equipment tags(not the family). This is a hospital of 30.000 m2 floorarea, so select every instance apart is a bad job.
We can select this according to an parameter. For this kind of issue filters for 2D and annotation categories are very helpful.
Furthermore, We use views more than 1 time. This could be done by having a masterfile where all the projects of a hospital are loaded in. In this view we print.
In that projects we have 1 view 1:50 with all the details.
We use this view in the masterfile 4 or 6 times by different scales and Visibility Graphics.
So in 1:500 no grids, no roomtags, detaillevel on coarse
in 1:200 no grids,
1:100 grids and dimensions etc.
But we do have a problem on this moment with dimensions. We cannot hide a part of the dimensions, because they are 1 category.
So if we could use a filter. We just select all dimensions of 1.8 mm, and 2.5 mm etc.
This would be very useful.
This problem can partly sulvolved by having subcategories for annotation category's.
m20roxxers
2008-08-02, 05:21 AM
Can you just build visibility parameters into these objects and use select all instances options in the view and then change the properties?
Unless I am reading this incorrectly it sounds like pretty standard things your doing so I can't see the issues with your workflows.
Changing dimension types should be able to change what information you want to display.
patricks
2008-08-04, 02:11 PM
I don't quite follow how you are using views. Are you not placing your views on sheets? Do you not create separate views for all different view scales you need to represent? Do you not have separate views for interiors, architectural, structural, etc?
This is how Revit works. It sounds to me like you're trying to make Revit work like, or trying to use Revit like AutoCAD works, and it really doesn't work that way. In AutoCAD you typically put everything in one floor plan, including all annotation for all disciplines, and then turn off what you don't need in each particular viewport on a sheet. Revit doesn't work like this. You create separate views for each discipline, and notes and annotations in each view are specific to that view.
A dimension, like text, is view-specific (except in dependent views). It's either there, or it's not, in that particular view. If you duplicate a view with detailing, but don't want some or all the dimensions from the original view, then just select and delete them. There is no need for filters regarding dimensions.
captjim
2008-08-05, 11:55 AM
Of course we need a good filtering system. We want to change all of this size member to that size member of the current selection set. Sure we can select the family and then re-select a subset, but what's wrong with more straightforward options?
m20roxxers
2008-08-06, 05:46 AM
Have you downloaded the SI Tools?
These have some very handy ways to select the members you are after in your project very quickly.
http://www.structuralintegrators.com/products/si_tools_r.php
captjim
2008-08-06, 11:57 AM
Have you downloaded the SI Tools?
These have some very handy ways to select the members you are after in your project very quickly.
http://www.structuralintegrators.com/products/si_tools_r.php
Not sure just what that is but thanks. The link seems to be down at the moment.
m20roxxers
2008-08-07, 01:01 AM
It's an addon for Revit Structure, it contains a few extra commands that make selecting steel members very easy by deciding what members, what level and options like that to instantly select what you are after other then using filters or something like that.
Link worked fine for me
CzesioR
2009-04-14, 10:41 AM
Here is a screenshot from RFEM3 (dlubal company) how looks in it "select special" dialog box, and in my opinion how it should looks like in Revit Structure (at least has the same functionality)
I would add more parameters like: selecting by workset.
This is such basic tool used during modeling that shouldn't be supplied by third party companies!!!
I was waiting for RST 2010 and was hopeful to see better selecting tool (and several others useful things) but no! Much more needful was ribbon menu. It's only a firework carrying nothing new into power of Revit
Summarizing what new (for structural engineers) was added?! In my opinion beside slanted columns NOTHING!!!
Sad but true :(
One year of expectation and still Revit for me is in beta stage. At this speed of adding new features, correcting bugs etc. we will have useful software in 2100!
I'm very, very disappointed :(
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