Dynamic Windows

[Gigliano70]

Hey all,

Here is a window in plan. It's just not good enough. Anybody have anything better?

I show you mine you show me yours =)

~Frank

[Gigliano70]

wow! mines that good huh? it's not even finished! =)

[bshank.140587]

Ask and ye shall receive....

[Gigliano70]

Nice! I like the casement option. double hung is good too.

[fkellogg]

Here's mine, but it is probably too specific to what I do.
It uses SilverLine window profile and sizes, and the JKKJ with shim space between the windows helps to get the actual finished width of a particular installation.

You could get some ideas, maybe.

Frank

[Gigliano70]

Here's mine, but it is probably too specific to what I do.
It uses SilverLine window profile and sizes, and the JKKJ with shim space between the windows helps to get the actual finished width of a particular installation.

You could get some ideas, maybe.

Frank

Thats very nice! Very Specific yes, but it gets me thinking of double duty blocks and putting a section in mine also... the details in commercial Arch don't have to be spot on correct except in details. Our sections are so large that all that detail disapears and looks like a huge line.

[brokenkeys]

Excellent windows. Here's mine...

Combined with this macro:


^C^C-layer;m;A-GLAZ;c;6;;;-insert;"Win01.dwg";\;\wipeout;f;off;


it's a command in a toolbar I just released to my team which each user can assign their own shortcut to, if they want. Also on the toolbar are some mullions with wipeouts to overlay on the window block. The goal is for as much flexibility as possible. So far I've gotten positive feedback, except for a few issues with the wipeouts...

Also most of our plans are at 1/8" so there's no point in getting overly detailed. But I do plan on making more detailed blocks at a later time.

[Gigliano70]

Excellent windows. Here's mine...

Combined with this macro:


^C^C-layer;m;A-GLAZ;c;6;;;-insert;"Win01.dwg";\;\wipeout;f;off;


it's a command in a toolbar I just released to my team which each user can assign their own shortcut to, if they want. Also on the toolbar are some mullions with wipeouts to overlay on the window block. The goal is for as much flexibility as possible. So far I've gotten positive feedback, except for a few issues with the wipeouts...

Also most of our plans are at 1/8" so there's no point in getting overly detailed. But I do plan on making more detailed blocks at a later time.

This is nice as well, You might be able to do without the wipeout in the macro. it's a drawing specific sysvar so if you have a common template that everybody starts with, turn off the frames in it then save it. also you could do without the button if you right click on this widow icon in your tool pallets you can set what layer it inserts on among other things. if the destination drawing doesn't have that layer it will automatically make it. your block doesn't have to be made on that layer but the layer does have to be in the saved block drawing in your library. i do like the button idea. but tool pallets makes that process so much easier and you can share a whole tool pallet with everyone accross your network.
of course if you don't have tool pallets yet then they alone should sell an upgrade to your bosses.

unfortunatly wipeouts in blocks are still a common complaint. handy they are. trustworthy they aren't.

just some ideas. Thanks for sharing.

~Frank

[brokenkeys]

We also just started using a new drawing template with wipeouts set to off as you mention. Until that starts to filter into our active projects having the macro turn frames off makes sure that all my users who are unfamiliar with wipeouts don't start exploding everything trying to figure out what that mysterious frame is (they have a habit of altering anything and everything despite repeated requests/ threats.)

Initially I did venture down the tool palette path but met heavy resistance. Having assignable aliases or shortcut keys is the only thing that sold dynamic blocks to the staff otherwise we'd still be repeatedly altering one-off details in a copy and paste quagmire, R12 style.

If there is a way to assign keys to the toolbar I'm all ears...


Thanks for the input.
-Tim

[Rico]

Hi guys,

Don't mean to be a grumpy Gus, but in the future, if you wanna see what blocks people have shared here, please use the Search function at the top right of your screen within the forums window. Putting 3 or 4 blocks like this makes it hard to categorize who shared what and things can get out of hand in a hurry.

Thanks all.

For what it's worth, searching WINDOWS (http://forums.augi.com/search.php?searchid=1080034)nets these results ....

[Rico]

Hi Rico,
this isn't to see what block people HAVE shared... It's to see what blocks people are going TO share. Therfore searching for new window blocks would not work. This is a sharing group, inviting people to share in doing so, helping to ADD to the amount and diversity of future searches where someone would first search for WINDOWS and find this and other threads. I see nothing wrong with this particular thread or the other you closed for that matter. They both were intended to encourage more sharing which i'm sorry to say there hasn't been alot of lately. In fact I think I'm the only one in a month to post to this group. You should encourage more threads like this. as far as catagorizing who shared what, well i'm sure it could be a daunting task, perhaps perfecting that is an impossibility and enforcing it is actually discouraging the processes that this thread intended at creation.

Please C.C. your manager any further communications i'de be happy to go offline with this discussion.

~Frank

The guildelines for sharing blocks in this forum have been posted before. You can find them here (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=56755).

The format for sharing FINISHED BLOCKS has been put in place so that people can FIND them easily.

I will kindly ask that the rules be followed in the future for the ease of all users, new and old.

[Chris.N]

Hello all,
great discussion altho taken slightly out of context IMO.

this forum was intended as a "Hey! Look what i can do with these things!!" way of sharing one's work, while the Technical forum is more for the "Hey, do you know if i can do ______ with DB's?" Once the issue is resolved (as is always the hope), then you take that wonderfull DB that you brought into the world and hopefully place it in the SHARING forum.

The only limitations are that the SHARING forum be for FINISHED blocks, but may not be the end all for that particular block. People are more than welcomed, and even encouraged to take someone's idea and either make it bigger, better, faster, or use it as a springboard for another direction. The naming guidelines are in place to help the searches by TYPE, or INDUSTRY.

We who created and maintain these Dynamic Block areas are not complicated people, and the rules we authored were intended to be just as simple.

Please, as stated in the General Forum Guidlines, if you have issue with a moderator or how they do things, please PM us with your ideas or issues. do not make things more complicated than they need to be. There usually is a very good reason for things that we would gladly share.

thank you.

[Chris.N]

wow! mines that good huh? it's not even finished! =)
based on this statement (as an example) then this thread should have been placed in the technical forum and asked if anything could be added to make it better.

before the dual forums were created, there were whole STRINGS of mods to submitted blocks that, quite honestly, we had way too much fun with! :mrgreen:

[Rico]

wow! mines that good huh? it's not even finished! =)


Hi Rico,
this isn't to see what block people HAVE shared... It's to see what blocks people are going TO share. Therfore searching for new window blocks would not work.
~Frank

Also, to add to Chris's statement above, based on the attached quotes, searching for FINISHED Window Dynamic Blocks would be a GREAT way to see the many different ways to make your block better.

Referencing other people's finished work is exactly the way in which the DB Forums were meant to operate. Using the free resources found in the DB Sharing Forum allows you to better tailor your DB tools for your company's particular needs. And, once complete, you share your block here so that other people can reference your process and improve their work. Think of it as a learning collective of sorts.

Keeping a clean library of finished blocks in this forum is intended to help you out by making finished products easier to access and reference and is JUST as important as encouraging other people to share their work.

[brokenkeys]

...is anything ever truly finished?

The technical forum is full of questions about "how do I [insert technical DB question]". So I assume that most of these blocks will need to be moved over to there then... there are quite a few that are 'unfinished'.

I see nothing wrong with having a lively discussion about 'nearly complete' DB's (although I'm not privy to the deleted comments/threads)

When someone uses the 'search this thread' function they get a small handful of window threads with some amazing blocks. One of which (this one to be precise) I attached my block seeing as it was so very similar. Users can compare and contrast these DB's and use them as a base for their own creations or just use whichever one suites them best. Similar to the Lisp threads; I rarely find the exact codes that I'm looking for but am always able to find a solid starting point/ nearly complete code.