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designer56644
2003-08-18, 10:00 PM
Well, because Revit is a truly great program, I just want some of the new folks that may see Jeffrey's posts to understand that people actually have to be asked what "bugs" them in Revit, and that the good heavely out-favors the annoying. (nothing but good cheer meant by this Jeffrey:) )

Soooo, to begin with, in my limited time with the program, I am sooo stoked about how well the prog. produces sections and elevations. Revit handles them beautifully. But the thing that really gets me all warm and fuzzy is the scheduling capabilities. Super Easy compared to the other(s).
So customizable, and they impliment just the way I ask them too.
Simply Radical.

Next...

hand471037
2003-08-18, 10:04 PM
Trust me, after working with Revit for almost two years now I would never go back to anything else. :)

I was just trying for an interesting post topic, for most of us here (myself included) are rather heavy Revit boosters/defenders/advocates. I just wanted to hear what other heavy users of the software's chief bothers were, and thought that the Revit development team (hi guys!) might be interested too. Most of us like Revit so much that we don't talk too much about the things that we don't like!

beegee
2003-08-18, 10:12 PM
The easy interface of handling sheet numbers, titles, project information etc etc, and the simple arrangement of views within sheets, is one of Revits greatest assets, IMHO.

Sometimes, you need to go back to your "old cad" software ( as I've just been forced to do on a resurrected project ) to realise just how good Revit is. Sure, there are things that can be improved, but the program is just sooo much better than the competitors, it ain't funny.

Steve_Stafford
2003-08-18, 10:15 PM
I love the align tool and that dimensions can control objects...when using Microstation or AutoCAD those features loom large to me.


:shock: :shock: What!! Jeffrey is a Revit Advocate?? :shock: :shock: :lol:

This portion has been another useless post by "Q"...Jeffrey is clearly an ardent and vociferous advocate of Revit!!

designer56644
2003-08-18, 10:44 PM
Holy Moly Jeffrey,

4 minutes to reply-post!


and thought that the Revit development team (hi guys!) might be interested too.

I did'nt want to say so, but I had a feeling that was one of your clear ambitions :) :) :) And yes, I hope they are listening.

Good troll matey.

ajayholland
2003-08-19, 07:40 AM
Take a look at the other newsgroup. Zoog's group has eight new members in one day. ADT 4 has ninteen posters with questions or problems, mostly related to compatibility with other programs of the same family.

Don't these people know when to give up? Sure it can be made to work, but most users do not have the talent or inclination to solve software related problems. They just want something that works. The fact that it often doesn't work invites people to improvise.

I'll gladly accept Revit's current limitations to avoid the management overhead of any other 2d or 3d software I've used.

-AJH

Vincent Valentijn
2003-08-19, 10:02 AM
I love the align tool and that dimensions can control objects...

I second that!
it doesn't seem much but it feels great

Martin P
2003-08-19, 12:08 PM
Just being in a plan view, then hitting that little button that says "3D" does it for me!! Have been working a bit in autocad recently, and have found myself looking for it for a few seconds, then remembering, oh yeah :roll:

I bet we all waste hours "twirling" around the model, and just admiring it! (I know I do, try running a journal file sometime, its amazing how often it flips to 3d and gives me a twirl :lol: )

oh ramps and stairs too - how easy is it? and roofs, oh and walls, oh and placing windows and doors and................ :wink:

sbrown
2003-08-19, 01:57 PM
I know I've posted a lot of issues lately with worksets, groups and other complaints. I hope no new users takes these out of context, our firm has been using revit since release 1 and pushing its limits daily. The program is just AWESOME. It has made my life at work much more enjoyable.

Top of the list

1. parametric full building, not just objects. like when you attach your walls up to the roof and then adjust the plate height by the level tag and your sections and elevations automatically update.

2. error removal from our documentation. ie, ref. bubbles, section tags, etc. are always right.

3. The family editor, truely the backbone of revit and very powerful object creator.

4. Drafting components. I love detailing in Revit. Placing real world components vs drawing lines and arcs, is great.

5. topography, it is so easy to understand your site and its relationship to your building for design purposes.

6. Accurender, is a easy to use render, not the best out there, but its so easy to study your design with quickly.

7. Client support, this is actually #1, Thanks to Chris Mahoney and the rest of the CSA's for all the help they provide!!!

8. The time revit saves you so you can spend half the day responding to the newsgroups.

Steve_Stafford
2003-08-19, 02:01 PM
7. Client support, this is actually #1, Thanks to Chris Mahoney and the rest of the CSA's for all the help they provide!!!

Good point...very true!

brentcarlson892079
2003-08-19, 02:11 PM
1. I don't feel like i'm making Frankenstein when doing multistory buildings
(x-refs for each level suck $#*% )

2. Schedules: No more updating or selecting doors for a schedule :D

3. No need to use lisps or buy add-ons for each thing you need (that ADT should have had in the first place) :twisted:

Scott D Davis
2003-08-20, 02:05 AM
I love the way Revit handles Real-time Pan/Zoom with the scroll wheel and shift/ctrl keys!

I'm checking out some consultant drawings in ACAD right now, and I cant tell you how many times I've tried to zoom with ctrl and the scroll wheel!

maxxue1756
2003-08-20, 02:13 AM
i study and teach autocad and autolisp about 10 years
teach ADT recent in architect union of taiwan

when i found revit,and try it, NOW i won't go back
i love it so much!

hand471037
2003-08-22, 11:12 PM
Mirror and Align. MIRROR AND ALIGN!

*******! When doing work in 3D these two tools make things so easy; the fact that Align is smart enough to properly move things 'round. So, for example, the height of something doesn't change; or that I can align anything, even completely different elements (like a reveal and the top of a chair!) and Revit figures it out. This rocks. Also the fact that when mirroring something, revit's smart enough to know that I don't want my chairs upside-down & inside out, but just want another copy of them on the opposite side of this wall...

These two tools alone make the work go so much faster!

Wes Macaulay
2003-08-23, 03:12 AM
Revit is by no means alone in using the virtual building model as a means to create construction documents. What does set it apart is how elegantly and easily it does this, at least compared to anything else.

One file. One building. Many drawings!

Nemetshek calls Vectorworks a BIM'er (building information modeller). Actually, it's a BUMMER because for me, a virtual building should create live elevations and sections that need minimal changes before they can be plotted. And Vectorworks doesn't even come close!

Revit has convinced me that the multi-user, single-file database is the way to go. Sure ArchiCAD does that, but the interface is frightening in comparison, and its code is second-rate... far more bugs per kilobyte of program.

Revit's support team has told me that their programmers are "a bunch of crazy Russians" who are obsessed with writing high quality, lean code. That means a LOT to me. These guys are committed to writing a good program, and they've got the wits to do it. Revit ain't bloatware, kids. Look at the happy users on this newsgroup... you'd think they'd reached Nirvana or something!

The breadth of architectural styles that can be handled in Revit, along with its customisability, its scalability, its ability to allow users to create their own parametric objects, and its ability to do so many tasks (rendering, schedules, costing, quantity take-offs)... it's just dizzying. I would dare to call myself a truly objective person, so I'm telling you: if you're wanting to delve into the realm of BIM, there is no other product I can recommend. And frankly, I think that's sad.

Obviously, if you're thinking you just want to stay in 2D, that's fine - use whatever you want then because it doesn't matter nearly as much. But like many Revit users, I can get my drawings out faster with Revit than with any 2D CAD platform, and I'm guaranteed 100% co-ordinated drawings and schedules. Oh yeah - and I get renderings too, and unlimited extra sections and elevations if I need them... I could go on.

Bentley, Graphisoft, Nemetschek, DataCAD, Arris and all the others need to get their glue together because they're going to get killed by Revit if this keeps up. I've been studying the CAD market for years, and Revit is the only bright light out there in the BIM arena. I'm really hoping someone else will bring another program up to Revit's capabilities soon.

beegee
2003-08-23, 04:40 AM
Wes,

Amen to that.
You certainly have a way with words. Wish I could have expressed it half as elegantly.

designer56644
2003-08-23, 06:27 PM
One of the stigmas I have seen following Revit about the CAD community is actually one of it's strengths:

Interoperability.

Last week I exported a completed 3300 sq.ft. model to dxf. It was a home I designed for a mechanical engineer that works for TRW in Torrance CA. He's an MCAD guy who works in a diffent world (literally)
than we. The file imported perfectly into Pro/E. He was able to rotate the model in all axis, cut sections, manipulate in place and standard families, etc. I just made sure I exported "cleanly".

It was nice.

:)