Wblock units change from inches to millimeters

[thegreyguy]

This is blowing my mind. In autocad 2006 I wblock out my block with the units set to arch-inches. If I open the block in 2006 everything is as I would like it to be namely the units: arch-inches. I open the same block in 2009 and it changes the units to decimal-millimeters!

What on earth am I doing wrong.

I'll attach the original block saved in the 2004 format.

[William Troeak]

I opened the file up for you and it opened in Arch. Units. Try reposting the dwg. before it was w-blocked. Maybe someone can figure it out.

[dzatto]

Are you opening it up in 2009 in a blank template? Maybe the default template is set to a metric template instead of an imperial one. Try opening it in an imperial template.

[thegreyguy]

dzatto, I'm not clear what you mean. I am opening the block file, so the dwg. I am not talking about inserting the block. I open the exact same file in 2006 and 2009 and the units change. I am guessing it has something to do with my config, but I have no idea where to start looking.

troeakwj, what version did you open it in? If the dwg opens with the units set to arch-inches great! That is what I want.

[William Troeak]

I am opening it in ACAD 2009. I will try it again in the morning in ACAD 2006.

Are you using Autocad Architecture, or plain AutoCAD?

[thegreyguy]

I am actually running AutoCAD MEP 2009 w/ sp3.

[dzatto]

dzatto, I'm not clear what you mean. I am opening the block file, so the dwg. I am not talking about inserting the block. I open the exact same file in 2006 and 2009 and the units change. I am guessing it has something to do with my config, but I have no idea where to start looking.

troeakwj, what version did you open it in? If the dwg opens with the units set to arch-inches great! That is what I want.
Oh, I misunderstood you. I opened it up in ACA 2009 and it's set to arch-inches. I have no idea why it would change. I'm assuming all other drawings opened in 2009 show the correct units?

Try copy clipping the block into 2009, then wblocking it and see what happens.

[thegreyguy]

Okay, I'm not sure what this means but I have a feeling this is connected in some way. If I open a new drawing with the "Open with no template - Imperial" option the units are set to decimal-milli. :confused: Think I'll take this straight to Autodesk.

[irneb]

When you created the block / wblocked it out. Was the block set to unitless? That could explain the discrepancy.

If you insert a "unitless" block then the defaults are assumed as per: Options->User Preferences->Insertion Scale. These are saved in registry for the current AutoCAD version, so they may be set differently between your 2009 and 2006 versions - that may be why the units are different in the 2.

Solution 1: Change the INSUNITSDEFAULTSOURCE and -TARGET sysvars to the same in the 2 versions.

Solution 2: Set the block to its actual units (not unitless) before WBLOCK. While in BEDIT open Properties Palette, don't select anything and change the Units drop-down.

Solution 3: Open the drawing and type UNITS, select the required units & save.

[thegreyguy]

Nothing I am doing is unitless.


Solution 1: Change the INSUNITSDEFAULTSOURCE and -TARGET sysvars to the same in the 2 versions.Both of these are set to inches like I want, but the problem I am having is not an insertion issue.


Solution 2: Set the block to its actual units (not unitless) before WBLOCK. While in BEDIT open Properties Palette, don't select anything and change the Units drop-down.The block is set to inches before I wblock.


Solution 3: Open the drawing and type UNITS, select the required units & save.I thought of doing this too, but when I change the units of the drawing my dynamic parameters are lost. This is a problem because all the blocks I need to create are dynamic. This really has me boggled.

Could someone check out this block on their 2009 install and let me know what units it opens with. It was created in a drawing with units set to arch-inches, the block units are inches, wblocked out with insertion units set to inches. Opens with decimal-milli on my machine.

Thanks

[irneb]

Sorry, think I misunderstood. You're right it opens in mm on mine as well. Opened in 2008 as Arch-Inch. Must be a bug in 2009.

[thegreyguy]

Autodesk, you disappoint me.... :(

[rhiedw414409]

I know this is old, but I'm running 2014 now and I ran into a problem similar. I wblocked a piece of a drawing, and when I opened the wblock, and instead of staying in Decimal the units were converted to Architect. Ultimately I figured out that cogo points were the problem. As soon as the points were off, I wblocked the same piece and it opened to Decimal. Not sure if this is the case for you, but throwing it out there.